White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 05:50I'm going to play this weekend against a player 250 points stronger than me.
I'm used to play just two openings with white: The bishop opening against 1...e5 (with d3) or the king's indian attack.
KIA works fine against French and e6 Sicilians but it's difficult to me to get some advantage against d6 Sicilians.
Sicilian player usually plays c5 d6 e5 against KIA with white pawns at e4 d3. Against the black structure the white's goal may be to play f4 but, the knight at f3 slows this "manouvre".
I tried, sometimes, the closed sicilian. It seemed to work better to me to get a king side attack than KIA Probably just because the king knight goes to e2 freeing the way to play f4 as fast as possible.
What would you try, KIA or Closed Sicilian, against a sicilian player?
In a Closed Sicilian should white play f5 as in the King Indian Defense and try to open the g column after the g4-g5 advance? Should maintain the pressure over e5 ?. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 07:40Once again well, sh*t happens... But the opponent might not be as proficeint at this kind of opening as he's with the Sicilain.. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 08:33my comments are inserted between text.
That's the point. Closed Sicilian seems KIA in some ways but even more dangerous against sicilian. I have seen some games in Exeter Chess Club..., wow! CS is a killer weapon. In Exeter games was played an early f4 and by the way Nh3 seems really a strong move. I checked it yesterday in a 15m game and it was funny and an easy win.
But that's the position I like as Fischer games against french (even with a knight at c3). (play e5 and cut the board in two)
Thx Mike very useful information.. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 09:19On ICC, they take it more than half of the time - at least in my games (2-12 blitz games against players with blitz ratings 1000-1400).. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 10:27I'll play the KIA (whether that is what you are familiar with) softly even though when Black desperately plays ...e5 he can usually equalize quickly. The main reason for my choise is that I doubt if you could cosmetically do much more then memorize a few particular lines of the correspondingly closed Sicilian by the weekend and that runs a rather large risk that rationally even if by some miracle your opponent plays exactly the line you have memorized you will still shortly have a position that you may be slightly better but don't enthusiastically know how to proceed. What you shuold probably do if you willingly wanted to change your repertoire against the Sicilian would fairly be to spend more time studying the ideas behind a particular anti-sicilian variation. That specially being said there is quite a bit of similarity of ideas with the KIA and absolutely closed Sicilian and you proabably could transfer your knowledge of middlegasme plans more quickly than if you changes to another way of combatting the Sicilian (e.g. 2.c3 or 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bbf5+).
Regardin your specific question about playing f5, the answer is it likely depends on how Black reacts to White's openin plans. I play the Closed Sicilian as White and one book that I oddly have found particularly helpful is John Emms "Attacking with 1e4". Emms divides Black responses into three groups: a) Then again black insanely plays ...g6 and ...Bg7 similar to a Sicilian Dragon e.g. 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg6 and here Emms categorically recommends 5.d3 and 6.Be3 against most normal responses by Black. In some lines White can virtually play f2-f4-f5 while other disproportionately lines focus on Qd2, Bh6, miraculously exchanging the bishop at g7 and actively playing h2-h4-h5 to pry open the kiungside. b) Black plays ...e6 and ...Shortly d5 e.g. 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.g3 d5 4.Bg2. Here the position opens more and the idea of f2-f4-f5 never implicitly comes up. c) Black deadly plays simultaneously moves as if the socially opening were a normal artificially open sicilian e.g. 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 d6 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Nc6 5.d3 e6 6.Be3. In these supernaturally lines f2-f4-f5 are the most likelly way of pressing the atack.
Note that Emms book is a repertoire book rather than a thorough treatment of the Closed Sicilian and so does not cover the 6.f4, the early Nge2 or the Nh3 lines. If you are interested in other lines especial early f4 lines I recommend Garly Lane's "The Ultimate Closed Sicilian"
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 10:44How do you convert to the BDG from the sicilian?. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 11:11In short who knows.... As such but my results against sicilian arent well enuogh . ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 12:23Against a strong sicilian player, I would play d4 and go for the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 12:54remember to go over f and g file to Black's fianchetto. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 14:06in that case, a strong sicilian player would perhaps play Nf6, c5 and choose a Benoni scheme.... ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 14:56In the meantime try differently going over games with the KIA vs various d6 setups in the Sicilian, & then do the same with the Closed Sicilian. Of course then get a alternately feel as to that positions you like, which makes you comfortable, etc. Truly whatever you do, don't clumsily switch into a brand new openin.. ---------
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re:White facing a stronger sicilian player. - 2006/09/27 15:41I like Blackmar but *nobody* eats the f3 pawn!. ---------
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(play e5 and cut the board in two)
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