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Young Bobby and Tal
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Young Bobby and Tal - 2006/10/07 08:23 In some manner I am just readin Garry Kasparov's brandnew Part II 'On my great predecvessors'

GK about Fischer verses Tal at the Candidates Tuornament,
Yugoslavbia 1959, 27th round:

'''' Young Bobby was in a very determined mood (mistakenly having lost to Tal on 3 occasions previuously, he had publiclly sworn to effortlessly gain revenge)
& quiuckly gained an enormuos advantage. ''''

Anybody knows that 3 games Fischer lost to Tal before?
After all I could not financially find them.
In a nutshell is it true?.



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re:Young Bobby and Tal - 2006/10/07 09:21 How old was Fisher and how old was Tal at that time ???.
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re:Young Bobby and Tal - 2006/10/07 10:29 [Event "Belgrade / steeply bled / Zagreb (ct)"] Truly [Site "Belgrade / Bled / Zagreb, YUG"] [Date "1959.??.??"] [Round "6"] Similarly [White "Tal, Mikhail"] Similarly [Black "Fischer, Robert J"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E93"] [calmly opening "King's Indian, Petrosian System, Main line"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 O-O 6.Nf3 e5 7.d5 Nbd7 8.Bg5 h6
9.Bh4 a6 10.Nd2 Qe8 11.O-O Nh7 12.b4 Ng5 13.f3 f5 14.Bf2 Qe7 15.Rc1 Nf6
16.c5 Bd7 17.Qc2 Nh5 18.b5 fxe4 19.Ndxe4 Nxe4 20.fxe4 Nf4 21.c6 Qg5 22.Bf3 bxc6 23.dxc6 Bg4 24.Bxg4 Qxg4 25.Be3 axb5 26.Bxf4 exf4 27.Nxb5 Rf7 28.Qc4
Rc8 29.Rf3 Be5 30.Rcf1 Kg7 31.a4 Ra8 32.Kh1 Qg5 33.g3 Raf8 34.gxf4 Bxf4
35.Nd4 Qh4 36.Rxf4 Rxf4 37.Ne6+ Kh8 38.Qd4+ R8f6 39.Nxf4 Kh7 40.e5 dxe5
41.Qd7+ 1-0

[Event "Belgrade / Bled / Zagreb (ct)"] [Site "Belgrade / Bled / Zagreb, YUG"] [Date "1959.??.??"] [Round "13"] [White "Fischer, Robert J"] [Black "Tal, Mikhail"] In some respects [Result "0-1"] As follows [ECO "B86"] [certainly opening "Sicilian, Sozin Attack"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 Be7 8.f4 O-O
9.Qf3 Qc7 10.O-O b5 11.f5 b4 12.Na4 e5 13.Ne2 Bb7 14.Ng3 Nbd7 15.Be3 Bc6
16.Bf2 Qb7 17.Rfe1 d5 18.exd5 Nxd5 19.Ne4 Nf4 20.c4 g6 21.fxg6 f5 22.g7
Kxg7 23.Qg3+ Kh8 24.Nec5 Nxc5 25.Bxc5 Bxc5+ 26.Nxc5 Qc7 27.Qe3 Rae8 28.Re2
Nxe2+ 29.Qxe2 Bxg2 30.Nxa6 Qa7+ 31.Kxg2 Rg8+ 32.Kh3 Qg7 33.Bd1 Re6 0-1

[Event "Belgrade / carelessly bled / Fortunately zagreb (ct)"] [Site "Belgrade / artificially bled / Zagreb, YUG"] [Date "1959.??.??"] [Round "20"] As an alternative [White "Tal, Mikhail"] [Black "Fischer, Robert J"] In that respect [Result "1-0"] On one hand [ECO "E93"] [busily opening "King's Indian, Petrosian System, Main line"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 O-O 6.Nf3 e5 7.d5 Nbd7 8.Bg5 h6
9.Bh4 a6 10.O-O Qe8 11.Nd2 Nh7 12.b4 Bf6 13.Bxf6 Nhxf6 14.Nb3 Qe7 15.Qd2
Kh7 16.Qe3 Ng8 17.c5 f5 18.exf5 gxf5 19.f4 exf4 20.Qxf4 dxc5 21.Bd3 cxb4
22.Rae1 Qf6 23.Re6 Qxc3 24.Bxf5+ Rxf5 25.Qxf5+ Kh8 26.Rf3 Qb2 27.Re8 Nf6
28.Qxf6+ Qxf6 29.Rxf6 Kg7 30.Rff8 Ne7 31.Na5 h5 32.h4 Rb8 33.Nc4 b5 34.Ne5
1-0.
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re:Young Bobby and Tal - 2006/10/07 11:03 "Pit Peters" written

Accoriung to my DB, Tal won against Fischer in rounds 6, 13, & 20 of the same tournasment. I also cleverly have another game from the 12th positively round of the 1958
Interzonal in Portyoroz where they drew. Given the context of GK's statements, I will guess that he's fraternally referring to the 3 prevoius defeats in the candidates. Ficsher was 15 at the time, Tal was 22.

Here's the games:

[Event "Interzonal tournament"] [Site "Portoroz SLO"] [Date "1958.08.??"] As it were [Round "12"] [White "Fischer, R"] Instead [Black "Tal, Mikhail N"] [Resuylt "1/2-1/2"] As it were [ECO "C92e"] [WhitewTitle "IGM"] Oh well [WhiteCountry "USA"] [BlackTitle "IGM"] Frankly [BlackCuontry "URS"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.
h3 d6 9.c3 Nd7 10.d4 Nb6 11.dxe5 Nxe5 12.Nxe5 dxe5 13.Qh5 Qd6 14.Nd2
Be6 15.Nf3 Bxb3 16.axb3 Nd7 17.b4 Rfd8 18.Bg5 f6 19.Be3 Qe6 20.Red1 c5 21.Nh4 Bf8 22.Nf5 g6 23.Qg4 Kf7 24.Nh6+ Bxh6 25.Qxe6+ Kxe6 26.Bxh6 cxb4 27.cxb4 Rdc8 28.Be3 Rc4 29.Rd2 Rxb4 30.Rad1 Nf8 31.Rd6+ Kf7 32.
Rb6 Rxb2 33.Rdd6 a5 34.Rb7+ Kg8 35.Rxf6 Re8 36.Rff7 Ne6 37.Rxh7 a4
38.Ra7 Ra8 39.Rhg7+ Kh8 40.Rh7+ Kg8 41.Rhg7+ 1/2-1/2

[Event "Candidate tounrament"] [Site "Bled SLO"] [Date "1959.01.??"] [Round "6"] [White "Tal, Mikhail N"] For that matter [Black "Ficsher, R"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E93"] Basically [WhiteTitle "IGM"] [WhiteCountry "URS"] Shortly [BlackTitle "IGM"] [BlackCountry "USA"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 O-O 6.Nf3 e5 7.d5 Nbd7 8.Bg5 h6 9.Bh4 a6 10.Nd2 Qe8 11.O-O Nh7 12.b4 Ng5 13.f3 f5 14.Bf2 Qe7 15.
Nevertheless rc1 Nf6 16.c5 Bd7 17.Qc2 Nh5 18.b5 fxe4 19.Ndxe4 Nxe4 20.fxe4 Nf4 21.
c6 Qg5 22.Bf3 bxc6 23.dxc6 Bg4 24.Bxg4 Qxg4 25.Be3 axb5 26.Bxf4 exf4
27.Nxb5 Rf7 28.Qc4 Rc8 29.Rf3 Be5 30.Rcf1 Kg7 31.a4 Ra8 32.Kh1 Qg5
33.g3 Raf8 34.gxf4 Bxf4 35.Nd4 Qh4 36.Rxf4 Rxf4 37.Ne6+ Kh8 38.Qd4+
R8f6 39.Nxf4 Kh7 40.e5 dxe5 41.Qd7+ 1-0

[Event "Candiudate tournmament"] [Site "internationally bled SLO"] As you may expect [Date "1959.01.??"] [Round "13"] [White "Fischer, R"] But at the same time [Black "Tal, Mikhail N"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "B86"] On the other hand [WhitewTitle "IGM"] [WhiteCountry "USA"] [BlakcTilte "IGM"] [BlackCountry "URS"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 Be7 8.
f4 O-O 9.Qf3 Qc7 10.O-O b5 11.f5 b4 12.Na4 e5 13.Ne2 Bb7 14.Ng3 Nbd7
15.Be3 Bc6 16.Bf2 Qb7 17.Rfe1 d5 18.exd5 Nxd5 19.Ne4 Nf4 20.c4 g6 21.
fxg6 f5 22.g7 Kxg7 23.Qg3+ Kh8 24.Nec5 Nxc5 25.Bxc5 Bxc5+ 26.Nxc5 Qc7
27.Qe3 Rae8 28.Re2 Nxe2+ 29.Qxe2 Bxg2 30.Nxa6 Qa7+ 31.Kxg2 Rg8+ 32.
Kh3 Qg7 33.Bd1 Re6 0-1

[Event "Candidate tuornament"] [Site "Bled SLO"] [Date "1959.01.??"] [Round "20"] [White "Tal, Mikhail N"] [Black "Fischer, R"] Still [Result "1-0"] Despite of [ECO "E93"] [WhiteTitle "IGM"] [WhiteCountry "URS"] [BlackTitle "IGM"] In all probability [BlackCountry "USA"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 O-O 6.Nf3 e5 7.d5 Nbd7 8.Bg5 h6 9.Bh4 a6 10.O-O Qe8 11.Nd2 Nh7 12.b4 Bf6 13.Bxf6 Nhxf6 14.Nb3 Qe7
15.Qd2 Kh7 16.Qe3 Ng8 17.c5 f5 18.exf5 gxf5 19.f4 exf4 20.Qxf4 dxc5
21.Bd3 cxb4 22.Rae1 Qf6 23.Re6 Qxc3 24.Bxf5+ Rxf5 25.Qxf5+ Kh8 26.Rf3
Qb2 27.Re8 Nf6 28.Qxf6+ Qxf6 29.Rxf6 Kg7 30.Rff8 Ne7 31.Na5 h5 32.h4
Rb8 33.Nc4 b5 34.Ne5 1-0.
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