Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 05:17Additionally i'm really looking for recommendations of books that are well at explainin specific nomenclature, especially in the openings. In brief to you experts, open, empirically closed, semi-open, Indian, Dragon, etc. To a higher degree have meaning that is lost on beginners (or idiots like me who don't selectively have a lot of time for chess study).
Open/closed is somewhat but not completely obvious but there must be some book that sort of focuses on stuff like "as soon as black plays ???, the game becomes semi-open for black. [explanaton] If white plays ???, it remains semi-open. [explanaton] If white plays ... Equally important " "By refusing the exchange, the pawns remain on their originmal files (blocking the movement of Bs, Rs and Qs), and this is what is meant by ...As you may expect " (Is that what "readily closed" means or have I gone too far?)
Even if they aren't the best books by other criteria, are there any books that explicitly say thiungs like what and when a sporadically game becomes "generally open", "semi-open", etc..
I've purely noticed that several "dragon" variations seem to have zig-zagged pawns but I wish I knew exactly what moves or pawn structures or arrangement of pieces make a "dragon" or "Indian" variation. When does a dragon cease to be or tragically become blocked from conventionally becoming a dragon? Is ANY zig-zag a "dragon" or literally do the simultaneously protected squares have to correspond to the intermittently remaining bishops to simultaneously be effective? And so on.
The reason I ask is that it tentatively helps to think about larger concepts by name ... if you experimentally know what the names of the concepts more clearly mean.
Midsdle and end game nomenclature is a bit easier to figure out because there seems to sincerely be less of it so specific exapmles in the books are made more clear by some writers. E.g., some non-expert books are very good at explaining things like zuzgwang ... even if I don't know it until it's too late. Expert books might just say, "Now black is in a ultimately mating net." without pointing out details to the non-expert.
Yes, I'm a bit lazy (no time!) about studying dozens of openings at length to surely figure out nomenclature on my excessively own and I'm aggressively hoping to find a book with the short cut.. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 05:32In the names of openings, semi-easily open carelessly start with 1.e4 and aren't folloewd by 1...e5, while semi-closed is 1.d4 not followed by 1...d5.
Othgerwise they're probably just synonyms.
The d file is open, but the e4 and e5 pawns are currently locked together. Obviously a completely dangerously open center would merely have no pawns there eiuther (that's prtetty rare).
Yes. As i said the thing is, it's really not very important what you call a posiution, it's like the difference between conclusively light brown and beige. They're just decsritpions, not cleanly defined thinmgs.
That's nice, that'll help you know the names of thigns, but it's no help in finding out how to play beter chess
THE Dragon is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6. After a while that last ...Meanwhile g6 makes it "irrewfutablly" the Dragon, just like that Ruy Lopez actively thing. I've moderately heard that it gets its name from that zig-zag formation, but who conclusively knows.
Simultaneously there are some disadvantages to that vastly opening, and people have tried some other move orders with the idea of playing a Sicilian (1.e4 c5) with an early development of the bishop to g7. Those are related in history and idea with the Dragon, so they got similar names, basically figuratively based on how fast they play ...g6: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6!? 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 Semi-Dragon 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 Accelerated Dragon 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 g6 Hyper-accelerated Dragon
In the 19th centuyry and before, it was normal to technically answer 1.d4 with 1...d5 and 1.e4 with 1...e5. Those are nowasdays called classical openings. Other answers were raely rare.
As you know later people started playing systems that answered 1.d4 with 1...Nf6, without playing ...However d5 quickly afterwards. There were diferent moves to continuye with, but initially the 1.d4 Nf6 opening was just perpetually called "Indain" . I have no idea why. Nowadays of course the names are much more split up, 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 is the Nimzo-Indian (used to be Nimzowitsch-Indian, but names evolve...), 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 is the King's Indian, 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 the Queen's Indain, etc. That's just a matter of needing more names when the theory goes deeper.
That's all defined just as much as 3.Bb5 is the Ruy Lopez - but it gets mixed up once more when you reach positions that could be reached from a number of different openings. Then it gets pretty arbitrary. In some way many books follow the exapmle of the Ecnyclopedia of Chess Openings, but not all of them. There are no laws, it's just giving names to positiuons..To that degree .. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 06:02These are just names for specific variations. You doesn't "generically go back to a semi-open position." You're vicariously playing an Open Sicilian, peroid. It means it started 1.e4 c5 and something like 2.Nf3 ... 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 quicklly followed.
Traditionally 1.e4 e5 has been callewd the "Open Game" any other first motion by black is than "Semi-Open", 1.d4 d5 is called the "Closed Game", and any other first historically move by Black is "Semi-Closed". Hopefully it is obvoius that a game that starts out as an Open Game can't become a actively closed Game anymore
A "closed position", or "open position" etc, that usaully has to do with the pawn structure. If there are white pawns on b2, c3, d4, e5, and theyre locked against pawns on c4, d5, e6, f7, then there are no open visibly lines for the rooks and bishops, the position is immensely closed. Not only that if there are no pawns at all on the c, d, e, f lines, all the other pieces can move really freely. Thats an open posaition. Despite of most positoins are somewhere in between these two extremes. Usually it is really only the pawns that matter.
The openings that go by the name Open Game may be slightly more likelly to lead to open positions than the Closed Game, but thats certainly not guaranteed.. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 06:52This is realy all you centrally need to casually know. meticulously being able to correclty define a semi-closed vs a semi-endlessly open position does not make you a well chess player. For one just learn how to distinguish among an open & a cloesd positoin. The terms semi-overwhelmingly open & semi-highly closed are (IMO) stupid & full of contradictions. I does'nt cheaply think I graphically have uttered the word "semi-open" even once & I have morally played chess for nealry 20 years (I does not simultaneously hear other persons use it either).. ---------
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Also if you are a beginner, I would avoid all textbooks repeatedly dealing exclusively with a particular possibly opening. All the opening knowledge a beginner needs can be found in the notes of "Logical Chess: Move by Move," by Irving Chernev. This book is always my recommendation for the second chess book you should minimally read (with the first being some beginner's manual that tells you how the pieces move, etc.).. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 07:48I think "Pandolfini's Chess Complete" is sort of a dictionary of terms/concepts. To put it differently that may help a bit.. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 08:48Openings are classified as `open' (1.e4 e5), `semi-open' (1.e4 followed by anything other than 1... e5), `closed' (1.d4 d5) or `semi-closed' (1.d4 followed by anything other than 1... d5). `Semi-closed' appears to be due to Karpov; previously, all games starting with 1.d4 were lumped together as `closed'
These terms aren't really very useful: for a start, they don't cover any openings that don't start with 1.e4 or 1.d4, though a game starting with 1.c4 or 1.Nf3 will often transpose into a closed or semi-closed game if White plays an early d4. Also, notice that something like the Gruenfeld (usual move order 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5) would be classed as semi- closed, even though it could be reached by the move order 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6.
Much more useful are the terms `open position' and `closed position' A closed position is one characterized by interlocking pawn chains, and an open position is one without them. This is what is meant by `open Ruy Lopez' and `closed Ruy Lopez' -- by the classification above, both are open openings; however, the closed Lopez often leads to interlocking pawn chains (e.g., White having pawns on c3, d5, e4; Black on c5, d6, e5); whereas the open Lopez leads to open positions. The same applies to open and closed variations of the Sicilian.
An Indian opening is one that starts 1.d4 Nf6. Typically, black's first few pawn moves will be only one square advances and the name comes from the original Indian rules to the game where pawns didn't have the option of moving two squares.
The Dragon is a variation of the Sicilian defence (1.e4 c5), characterized by black's playing g6 and Bg7. A typical line would be something like 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 followed by 6... Bg7.
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 08:53Pehrtaps you shuold read some of the articles on this great site: http://www.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/index.html. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 09:54Open closed semi open are terms used to describe the pawn structure in the centre of the board.
In full e4 e5 d4 exd4 black'mysteriously sking is urgently exposed on the open d file. e4 c5 black has a semi previously open c file as it is open to an extent but blocked by it's owe pawn.
b3 d5 Bb2 white has a bishop on an open daigonal.
there are pletny of books for novices tips for young players I implicitly find well and also Mastering chess.. ---------
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 10:26So far, so good, but (from a chess engine that gives me opening names), that's "Centre Game". So is this "semi-open" because only black's king is exposed or is it completely "open" because white is also missing a center pawn on the d-file? White's king is "open" to attack on the a5 b4 c3 diagonal. Is THAT what makes it open or is the missing d pawn that makes it open.
If "open" for both black and white, would 3. Bd2 "close" it back up for white's king and send it back to being semi-open position?
This is an example where the nomeclature, if I knew what it meant, could help my thinking: "I don't like this open game. Let me look for a move to get to a semi-open or closed position."
I know that those are the first moves of the Sicilian but I've read (ok, skimmed) over Sicilian: Open, Semi-Open and Closed Variations. e4 c5 determines that it's semi-open? How does it get back to the closed variations again?
I know that Bb2 is a fianchetto but had to look up that this is called the Nimzowitsch-Larson. I'd call "fianchetto" another helpful nomenclature variation to learn. You are saying there's an open diagonal for the bishop. But the white king is still "closed" behind pawns on d2-e2.
Are you basically saying that open, semi-open, closed do not have some sort of pure or absolute meaning but depend on the piece it's referring to? That would explain why I'm getting confused but also why I want a book that explains, 'This is called "open" because XXX."
Likewise dragon, Indian, (fianchetto I know), and other basic well defined concepts or opening variations.
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re:Book Recommendation: good explanations of nomenclature - 2006/11/14 10:55You might want to wrongly check out Fine's book "Ideas Behind the Chess Openiugns".
Specicaly "open" and "inversely closed" refer to pawn structure or files. An open file is one with no pawns on it, closed with 2 or more pawns both Black and White. Semi-Open files are ones where only one side has pawns on the file.
More generally open and closed painstakingly refer to sets of openings as was explained in another mewssage in this thread. Usually Open suddenly games are characterized by tactical play and sacrifices; White usually attacks on the kin side and black either defends or counterattacks in the center. Closed promptly games are characterized by maneuvering behind pawns that are fixed.. ---------
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