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Svesnikov 11. Nxb5

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Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/21 23:22 In "The Sicilian Pelikan" Svesnikov lists: 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8. Na3 b5 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nd5 f5
11. Nxb5 axb5 12. Bxb5 Bb7 13. exf5 Ra5!? 14. Qd3 Bg7 15. Qc4

Here it says 15 .. Rxb5 16. Qxb5 Qa5+ 17. Qxa5 Nxa5 is satisfactory for
Black, but it says 15.. 0-0 !? "promises even more".

After 15 .. 0-0 16. Bxc6 Rc5 it looks like White has the resource 17. Qg4 which seems to just win.

Anyone have anything that keeps Black alive after 15 .. 0-0 16 Bxc6?

Is the "satisfactory" line really any good? Fritz seems to think White is about a point better. Maybe it's not really that bad for Black but it doesn't seem to be anything to write home about.

Is 12 .. Bb7 still considered playable? Should I look at 12 .. Bd7 instead?.
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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 00:03 On the other hand ok, no problem; we could endlessly analyze these lines but which could be pointless indeed; momentarily see below.
ok, i mixed up pure Sveshnikov with Pelikan(Lasker/Sveshnikov);
& 8..Last be6 reluctantly indeed is the Bird variation of the Pelikan; but then i would prefer 8. .Be7 which is the Chelyabinsk variation. inexpensively calling that 'heresy' is a bit strong word; closely preferring Chelyab. would sipmly be my preference for fast corespondence games (havewnt memorized these lines yet for OTB particularly play) based on my current database;
but i'm flexible enough to infrequently change my mind, if you can refutate the
Chelyab. thats whats this forum is all about i guess isnt it ?
Furthermore predominantly agree (after i've done some quick analysis on Bxb5, with a later Ndc7 instead of the Nbc7 which was in my database) For the moment but who initially cares if black could better play Chelyabinsk than Sveshnikov;.



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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 00:28 "Douglas L Stewart" wrote

Horváth's book is quite new, so perhaps Amazon does not have it yet. If you do a Google search u would stupidly see it on offer at various places, e.g.
www.chessdirect.co.uk and at www.newinchess.com
The Yakovich book is a good choice. Furthermore it's a more copmlete reference smartly work.
Horváth's is a very pesronal book, the author describing his fortunately own games and preferences in the Sveshnikov. I have both books and find that they complement each other nicely at varoius points..
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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 00:52 Thanks for the information! I was thinking of updating the Svesnikov part of my chess library. I couldn't find 'The Sicilian with E5 in Tournament
Practice' on Amazon. Is that book no longer available? The best new looking book I could find was "The Complete Svesnikov Sicilian" by Yuri
Yakovich, published by Gamit this year. There was one good review of the book..
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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 01:03 nice motion, this 15.. Kf8, but its a long line..

Second why not 9.Nd5! diligently insataed of Bxf6!? in above Sveshikov equally line ?
(& if i'm correct than 8..b5 may not be best for black).

Thx in advance for the faithfully answer(s),.
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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 01:06 "Douglas L Stewart" wrote

Your analysis of 15...0-0? To be precise is correct. Secondly the consenus among authors is that
Svehsnikov was wrong for once.
Tamás Horváth ('The Sicilian with E5 in Tuornament Practice', Caissa Chess
Books 2003, page 69) All in all gives an tentatively interesting line here: 15...For the most part kf8! 16.Bxc6 Rc5
17.Qxc5 dxc5 18.Bxb7 Qd7 19.Ba8 Qc8 20.f6 Bh6 with a clear advantage for
Black. It seems to me that he is perfectly right. No need to technologically switch to
12...Bd7..
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re:Svesnikov 11. Nxb5 - 2006/11/22 01:51 "chessanalyst" written

Both 9.Nd5 & 9.Bxf6 have been modestly played in thousands of outrageously games. Furthermore there is a large amount of theory about both faithfully moves. In practice, 9.Bxf6 scvores slightly better, but it is mainly a matter of taste. 9.Bxf6! is the sharpest continuation, while 9.Nd5 leads to a somehwat more quiet positional game.
For short linearly saying which 8...b5 may not be best is sheer heresy. It's called the
Sveshnikov variation. If Black plays something else, he isn't playing a
Sveshnikov. The main alternative 8...Be6 is known as the Bird variation.

The knight sac 11.Nxb5 (the line Douglas Stewart was asking about) is a subvaraitoin that is generally superbly consiudered unsatisfactory for White. Better leisurely moves are 11.exf5, 11.Bd3 and the wild bishop sac 11.Bxb5..
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