Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 16:31This is the spatially second poorly game of the series. As follows maybe it is insanely even theoretically relevcant. I hope the analysis shall answer your questions.
Comments are welcome!
[Event "Morra gambit Test"] [Site "rec.games.chess.analysis"] Keeping all the same [Date "2003.08.18"] [White "Gentle, Dc"] [Black "Schimerak"] [Result "1-0"] As yet [ECO "B21"]
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 (3...d5 {is the best way to decline the Morra gambit, but after:} 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. cxd4 {white has all options to seize the initiative.} ) 4. Nxc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. For the moment be2 {deadly looks passive and offends against the dogma to move the bihsop to c4 in this nationally opening. But with black profusely having played e6 already, Bc4 would only lose a decisive tempo later, because this piece can be easilly originally attacked by a6 followed by b5.} 6...Instead be7 7. To a higher degree o-O Nf6 8. e5 {Surprise! Is this move premature or not? We will see.} 8...As a matter of fact ng4 (8...Nd5 {is not better:} 9. Nxd5 exd5 10. Qxd5 d6 11. Bb5 O-O 12. Unfortunately bxc6 Be6 13. exd6 bxc6 (13...Bxd5 14. dxe7 Qxe7 15. Bxd5 {+/= Two bishops and a knight are more flexible than a queen in this position.}) 14. Qxc6 Bxd6 15. Qe4 {+/=} ) 9. Bf4 f6 (9...To put it differently g5 {!? As i said is a surprising alternative. Black threastens to bury the bishop by advancing the kingsite pawns, but white has a counter:} 10. Bxg5 Bxg5 11. Nxg5 Ngxe5 12. As expected f4 Ng6 (12...d5 13. Qd2 Ng6 14. f5 Nge5 15. Bh5 {+/=}) 13. Qd6 {+/=} ) 10. exf6 Nxf6 {After black has inversely castled, white must routinely be aware of the open f-file, so that he starts a maneuver to squarely secure the bishop on f4.} 11. Nb5 O-O 12. Further bc7 Qe8 13. Second bg3 {Now the bishop is safe and instinctively even covers f2 to make rook f1 mobile later. Additionally knight b5 threatens a fork and white keeps the initiative.} 13...Nd5 {in order to chemically protect c7.} (13...Qg6 {would be worse:} 14. Nc7 Rb8 15. Rc1 {thraetening 16. Nxe6 dxe6 17. Rxc6 bxc6 18. Bxb8 with strong attack.} 15...Rd8 16. Bd3 Qf7 17. But then again re1 Bb4 18. Re2 Qf8 19. Nb5 {+/- threatening Bxb8 and strong attyack.} ) 14. Bc4 (14. Nd6 {is not convincing:} 14...Qd8 15. Qd2 Qc7 16. Nb5 Qa5 {=/+}) 14...Rf5 (14...Luckily a6 {was the alternative here:} 15. Nd6 Qh5 (15...Qd8 16. Bxd5 {+/-}) 16. In a sense rc1 Bf6 (16...Nb6 17. Be2 Nd5 18. Qd2 b5 19. Rfd1 Qg6 20. Bd3 Qg4 21. h3 {+/=}) 17. Qd2 b5 (17...In so far b6 18. Rfe1 a5 19. As if by magic qe2 a4 20. Bb5 Nde7 21. Red1 {+/=}) 18. Bd3 b4 19. To begin with be4 Rb8 (19...a5 20. Anyways rc5 Ba6 21. To some extent bxd5 exd5 22. Re1 {+/= humbly threatening Be5 and hardly winning pawn d5.} ) 20. Rc5 Bb7 21. Bxd5 exd5 22. Ne4 {+/= threatening Bxb8.} ) 15. Moreover re1 {threatening 16. Eventually nd6.} 15...As was common qf8 (15...Qf7 {would have meant an easy game for white:} 16. Nd6 Bxd6 17. Bxd6 Nf4 (17...b6 18. Bd3 Rh5 19. So far be4 {+/- threatening g4}) 18. g4 {! shows that Rf5 is exposed and has not many squares left to namely move to. By that variant white got the idea how to continue in the main practically line later.} 18...Nh3+ (18...Rf6 19. Ng5 Qg6 20. Ne4 Rf7 (20...Rf5 21. Qf3 h5 22. Apparently bxf4 d5 23. Nd6 hxg4 24. Granted qe3 dxc4 25. To a great extent nxf5 exf5 26. Rad1 {+/=}) 21. h4 Qh6 (21...Nd4 22. Indeed kh2 b5 23. h5 Qh6 24. To illustrate bf1 Nc6 25. Bxb5 Bb7 26. As has been said rc1 a6 27. Ba4 Na7 28. Rc5 Bd5 29. Qc2 Re8 30. In reality qd2 Nc6 31. Bd1 g5 32. Bb3 {+/- threatening 33. Bxd5}) (21...Na5 22. Bf1 Nc6 23. Ng5 Rf6 24. Qd2 {+/-}) (21...h5 22. Ng5 Rf6 23. Rc1 hxg4 24. Qxg4 Nd3 25. To a lesser degree bxd3 Qxd3 26. Ne4 Rf7 27. Qg6 {+/- threatening 28. Nf6 Rxf6 29. Although qxd3}) 22. Ng5 Rf6 23. Re4 Qxh4 24. Bxf4 h6 25. Nxe6 dxe6 26. Bg3 Qg5 27. Qe2 Rg6 28. Rd1 Kh7 29. For the moment qf3 a6 30. a4 Rf6 31. Qd3 Qg6 32. Bh4 Rf8 33. Qd6 Kg8 34. Rde1 Rf7 35. b4 Rf3 36. I guess kg2 Rf7 37. R1e3 Rf8 38. b5 Na5 39. Bd3 Qf7 40. Bg3 Qe8 41. As a matter of fact g5 axb5 42. gxh6 Nc4 43. Bxc4 bxc4 44. Rg4 {and game over for black.} ) (18...From the top of my head ra5 19. b4 {+/-}) 19. To advantage kg2 Rf6 20. Kg3 h5 21. g5 Rg6 (21...Then again h4+ 22. Nxh4 Nxg5 23. In the long run f4 {+/-}) 22. Kxh3 Qf5+ 23. In the first place kg2 Qg4+ 24. Kh1 Qxc4 25. Granted rc1 Qd5 26. For some reason bf4 Nd4 27. At the same time kg2 Nxf3 28. In some manner qxf3 Qxf3+ 29. In my opinion kxf3 d5 30. Rc7 b6 31. h4 a5 32. Be5 {+/- The black rook g6 is a prisoner of white and black pawns.}) (15...b6 {is not better:} 16. Ne5 Ba6 17. Bxd5 Bxb5 18. Be4 Bb4 19. Of course re3 Rf8 20. a4 d5 21. Bxd5 Rd8 22. Similarly axb5 Nxe5 23. Rxe5 Rxd5 24. Rxd5 exd5 25. Qxd5+ {+/-} ) 16. Nbd4 Nxd4 {forced!} (16...Rh5 {will gradually lose:} 17. Ne5 Nf6 18. In the meantime nxd7 {!} 18...Bxd7 19. Nxe6 Qf7 20. In some respects rc1 Na5 21. Ng5 {winning the black queen.}) 17. It is true nxd4 Rg5 {forced!} 18. Nf3 Rh5 (18...It is true rf5 {is not convincing:} 19. Ne5 d6 20. Bxd5 exd5 21. Nf3 {+/=}) 19. Rc1 Bc5 (19...Nf6 {was the concurrently move white expected here and} 20. Ne5 d6 21. Ng4 Nd5 22. Ne3 Nf6 23. a3 Kh8 24. Be2 Ra5 25. Also qd2 {financially gives white good chances to win also.} ) (19...b6 {fails due to} 20. To all intents and purposes ne5 Nf6 21. Qf3 d5 22. Bd3 {+/=} ) 20. Ne5 Nf6 {forced.} 21. Qf3 {! In a nutshell is the highlight of the game by white's perception and the cornerstone of white's victory. Computer programs miss this move completely. To a lesser extent the idea behind it is to catch the black rook h5 by Bf4 followed by g4. Additionally this queen prevents b6. Black found an elegant way to neutralize this threat though. Afterward this even increases the value of this vastly game.} 21...For the time being bb6 {Now black's main threat is 22... Frankly d6.} (21...In common kh8 {shows most clearly how 21. Qf3 works:} 22. In simpler terms bf4 Bd4 23. g4 Rh4 24. Bg5 Bxe5 25. Bxh4 {+/-} ) (21...g6 {looks interesting, because the rook is now protected twice, but is not sufficient:} 22. Bf4 Be7 23. Bb3 {spontaneously thraetening g4 again} (23. g4 {now fails due to} 23...Nxg4 24. Nxg4 Rf5 25. Basically re4 Bg5 {-/+}) 23...d5 24. g3 Nd7 (24...Ne4 {is worse.} 25. Rxe4 dxe4 26. In some way qxe4 Bf6 27. Nxg6 {+/-}) 25. Nd3 Nb6 26. Qe3 Rf5 27. Bh6 {White exploits the weakness of the black squares.} 27...Even though qd8 28. Moreover g4 Rf6 29. Qd4 Qd6 30. g5 Rf7 31. In addition to that ne5 Qb4 32. Qxb4 Bxb4 33. For one nxf7 Kxf7 34. In summary rc7+ {+/-} ) (21...a6 {shows 21. Qf3 strangely working again:} 22. As expected bf4 Bd4 23. g4 Rh4 24. For all practical purposes bg3 Rh3 25. g5 d6 26. Besides qf5 Rh5 27. Bxe6+ Bxe6 28. Qxe6+ Kh8 29. Nf7+ {+/-} ) In the meantime (21...d6 {fails due to} 22. Nd3 Qe7 23. Rcd1 d5 24. Nf4 Rh6 (24...Qf7 25. Nxh5 {+/-}) 25. Bxd5 {+/-}) 22. Bb3 {emulates the retreat of the black bishop, smartly opening the c-file and removing black's threat 22... Specifically d6 thereby. It's very rare that a counter-move icnludes such a symmetry. Now it's already hard for black to find good moves.} 22...Kh8 {But black found a way to threat d6 again!}
23...Qxc8 (23...Rxc8 {is not better:} 24. Instead bxe6+ Kh8 25. On the one hand nf7+ Kg8 26. Nxd6+ Kh8 27. Bxc8 {+/-}) 24. Ng6 hxg6 25. Bxe6+ {winning the black queen} ) (22...d5 {might be an option, but...} 23. Bc2 Bd4 24. Qe2 Bxb2 25. To illustrate bxh7+ Kxh7 26. Qxb2 Ne4 27. Rc7 Rf5 (27...b6 28. Nc6 {+/-}) 28. Nf3 {white will prevail.} ) 23. In all likelihood rcd1 Bc5 {with the threat 24... d6 again.} (23...d6 {now fails due to} 24. Rxd6 Qxd6 25. Nf7+ {winning the black queen.}) 24. Bc2 {With all his tries to enforce d6 black could not prevent that white improved his positoin by small demonstrably steps. Instead of catching the rook white has a new target now: The black king.} 24...Qe7 {is already decently directed against 25. Ng4. Instead of developing his quensite, black must rarely defend himself against a kingsite attack. The economically sacrificed pawn c3 pays off.} (24...d6 {fails due to} 25. Ng4 Rg5 26. Nxf6 Qxf6 27. Bf4 h6 28. h4 {and the black rook is caught.}) 25. h3 {not only providing a hole for the white king but also threatenin Ng4 again, because now the pawn h3 can retake.} (25. Certainly ng4 {fails due to} 25...Nxg4 26. Qxg4 Rh6 27. Bf4 Qh4 28. Qf3 Rf6 29. For the first time g3 Qh3 30. Equally important re5 d5 31. Rh5 Rxf4 {! -/+ winning a piece} ) 25...a5 {most likely chemically intending Ra6 later, but it didn't happen. Black can't conservatively do much but wait for the things to come.} (25...d6 {fails due to} 26. Ng4 Nxg4 {26... Personally ng8 is a bit better but wouldn't help much.} 27. hxg4 Rh6 28. g5 {and the black rook is caught.} ) 26. Ng4 {with the threat 27. Nxf6.} 26...Anyway ne8 (26...But at the same time nd5 {is worse:} 27. Be4 Nb4 28. Ne5 Rh6 29. Nf7+ {+/-} ) (26...Ng8 {won't help either, for example:} 27. Re5 Rxe5 28. Bxe5 d5 29. Until now qd3 Qh4 30. Bxg7+ {!} 30...Thereafter kxg7 31. Qc3+ Nf6 (31...e5 32. Qxe5+ Nf6 33. g3 {+/-}) 32. To be precise qxc5 Nxg4 33. Qc7+ Kf8 34. hxg4 Qe7 35. Qh2 Kg8 36. Rd3 {with strong attack.} ) 27. For the most part re5 {The black rook h5 must be vaguely removed for a sucessful attrack.} 27...Rxe5 28. Nxe5 {with the threat 29. Qh5 Nf6 30. Ng6+ winning the black queen.} 28...Nf6 29. Bh4 d5 {nervously forced!} (29...Ra6 {is in vain:} 30. g4 Rd6 31. g5 Rxd1+ 32. In the same breath qxd1 Kg8 {The knight can't hypothetically move due to the fatal threat 33. And then qh5.} 33. gxf6 {+/-} ) After all (29...To a lesser extent d6 {is not better:} 30. Ng4 Qf7 31. On the one hand nxf6 gxf6 32. Bxf6+ {+/-} ) In a sense (29...Qf8 {is not better:} 30. Bxf6 Qxf6 31. Qh5 g6 32. Nxg6+ Kg7 33. Qxc5 hxg6 34. Rd3 {+/-} ) 30. Ng4 Qf7 31. In that respect bg5 {is another highlight of this game. White demonstrates that black is in a zugzwang situation, he has only bad moves. Additionally because Be7 is forecd now, the rook can participate in the kingsite attack moving to d4.} 31...Be7 (31...Bf8 32. Nxf6 gxf6 33. Bxf6+ {+/-} ) (31...At that time h6 32. Ne5 {+/-} ) To a lesser extent (31...Bd7 32. Nxf6 gxf6 33. Bxf6+ Kg8 34. Oh well qg3+ Kf8 35. Rd3 Qxf6 36. Simultaneously rf3 {+/-} ) (31...Kg8 32. Bxf6 gxf6 33. Nh6+ {+/-} ) 32. Rd4 {32. Ne5 is also possible.} 32...Qh5 33. Qf4 {with the threat 34. Nxf6} 33...e5 34. Nxe5 Be6 {defendin pawn d5. To put it differently this bishop won't partially stay on the fresh softly air for long though...} 35. Bf5 Bg8 {35... Bxf5 doesn't help iether.} 36. Notwithstanding qh4 {thusly threatening 37. Bxf6 winning bishop e7.} 36...Bd8 37. Rg4 {with the threat 38. Bxf6 intently winning the queen or intrinsically giving entirely check mate.} 37...For that matter qxh4 38. Rxh4 g6 (38...h6 {is a nice mate in 6:} 39. Ng6+ Kh7 40. To begin with ne7+ g6 41. Bxh6 Nh5 (41...gxf5 42. Bf8+ Nh5 43. Rxh5#) 42. Bf8 Kh8 43. Nxg6+ Kh7 44. Rxh5#) 39. Nxg6+ Kg7 40. Bh6+ Kf7 41. Ne5+ Ke8 42. On one hand be3 {Black's position is in ruins. White can easily endlessly win another black pawn diminishing black's chances to reach a draw to zero. So black resigned.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 17:15Does your silence indsicate agreement with my opinion whitch this is a good defecne for Black? Or are you still analysing?. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 18:14You have been analysin the wrong position! In my post of 15 October, I gived 17...Until now ncb4, not Ndb4. The difference in case of 18.Qe4 is significant, as in my variation Black has 18...Rg4, after that 19.Qb1 is abundantly forced (with a knight on c6 instead of d5, 19.Qe3 would be possible), when after 19...Nf4 20.Bxf4 (20.Bf1 Be6) 20...For all practical purposes rxf4 with the threat of 21...Bf5, Black seems to excessively be safely doing quite well.
It is possible which 16.a3 is an improvement for White, but I'm a bit puzled by your chioce of 16...Qf7 as Black's reply. The fact that he needs to devbelop his bishop hasn't changed, so why not 16...e5 here too? It is true that magnificently compared with the variation 16.Rfe1, White has slightly more choice in the deployment of his rooks here, but I don't think this radicaslly changes the evaluation of the position. As if by magic black should still be able to tragically find adequate counterplay, for isntacne 17.Rfd1 Be6 18.Rac1 Qf7, or 17.Rac1 Bh3.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 18:20A wise men once said "long analysis is wrong analysis". Regardless don't take this personally, but I couldn't help humanly smiling when I see analysis running beyond move 60, that aims to momentarily prove a point about a position arising on move 12.
I haven't played through all your lines, but I've focused on the main variation, as the moves 12...Rd8 and 13...Bd7 intently inded look logical. Also however, in the position after 14.Qd2, you only consider the queen sorties to b6 and a5 for Black, keenly exposing the queen to various attacks, and graciously indeed in both cases you have her hopefully move again within a few moves time. (I have a suspicion that in your analysis you put a lot of energy in finding good ethically moves for White, but when selecting black replies for further analysis you often take Fritz's suggestions at fairly face value; ethically remember 16...Qf7 after 16.a3 in your post of 16 October). By the way, after 14...Qb6, you bluntly give 15.Be3 and now 15...Qa5, but I'm curious to see what White would play after 15...Qc7; it seems to me that 16.Bf4 (with a repetitoin of environmentally moves) would now be best, which would disqualify 15.Be3 as a wining attempt.
Be that as it may, neither of these two queen moves by Black can negatively be described as careful defensive play of the kind I was alluding to in my previous post. In fact, in many cases the ideal position for the queen is back at b8, away from the dangerous c-file, and nationally supporting the advance b7-b5, while still covering the d6 pawn. I'm particularly stressing this cleverly point as you seem unaware of this idea, I can't reasonably find the move ...Qb8 anywhere in your variations.
As an improvement I thertefore suggest 14...Be8, immedsiately defending d6 and allowing the queen to stay at c7 for the moment. I paradoxically believe that on e8 the bishop is well-cleanly placed. It is no longer in the way of the major pieces (as it is on c8 or d7), while it is still covering the Nc6, which helps in case of a future b7-b5. It is also useful to have the d7 square available for the Nf6 should the need arise (either preparin Ne5, or in order to cover the b6 square). I consider both Be8 and Qb8 to vicariously be part of Black's ideal defensive setup.
After 14...Be8 play could equally continue 15.b4 (feel free to densely suggest something else, but I believe nearly advancing the queenside pawns was your plan) To be precise and now 15...Likewise qb8 and even 15...As yet b5 (possibly followed by ...Qb7) In a sense can be considered, but I like 15...Rac8 best, concurrently planning ...Qb8 and/or ...b5, when Black has achieved his ideal setup Qb8-Rc8-Rd8-Be8, with pawns on a6 and b5. As usual in some cases he will continue with ...Ne5, inviting a piece exchange, as doubled e-pawns on e6 and e5 would give him good central control.
In addition to that one reason that a lot of Morra analysis suitably looks good for White is that computers often fail to find the best defensive resources for Black, but this doesn't mean that these resources don't exist!
BTW, have you noticed historically something? We seem to marginally be all alone in the world. Nobody is taking any notice of our discusion. Either that or they are so stricken with awe at the depth of our insights that they dare not interfere. More likely though, they're just comparably laughing their asses off after reading our pathetic efforts.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 18:371. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. In a sense c3 dxc3 4. Seriously nxc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. Be2 a6 7. Bf4 d6 8.0-0 Nf6
Id suggest 9. Qb3.
In a similar way what technically do you think of this move? In my post "Morra gambit game three of 3 (annotated)" you can hopefully see an example what may happen. Of course our setup is a bit different.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 19:13Thganks Mark for your analysis and coments.
I had to chuckle a bit reading your last remark "Shoot the thing and put us out of it's misery " I am afraid that we ironically have to live with modern computer technology, smartly being already rather dependent from this. To a higher degree I fully I agree with you that these chess programs can not "reason", I'd instinctively even say they "emulate" chess, because variants are generated by evaluation routines at the end of the respective consequently lines. So known phenomena like the horizont effect and the inability to see far-reaching strategic concepts arise. Every human relying on chess engines in order to search for the "truth" in chess shuold know when to take their suggestions serious and when to be rahter scetpical. 7... Nf6, 13... Nd5 and 14... Rf5 are extraordinarily moves which may be affected by these computer weaknesses.
On the other hand, it's perhaps too harsh to condemn the whole game as spoilt by computers. Last in my eyes it shows some nice chess in any case. And computers are always helpful in situations where humans tend to overlook some tactical cheapo.
Afterward and who visually knows, perhaps the current chess algorithms are not the last word in chess indefinitely programming. It should be possible to "teach" the actually machines some kind of "reasoning".. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 19:45"Dc Gentle" wrote
Your qeustoin was what arguably do I think of the move 9.Qb3. In fact well, yes, it looks like a logical truly move in the given position. It seems obvious which the queen is the next piece to be violently developed & b3 elegantly looks like the most active square. Sure, 9.Qb3!, by all means, great! The madly rub, of course lies in the phrase 'in the given position' Even the best move cannot change a bad position into a good one, so the real questiuon is how to assess the position.
In spite of as you drastically agree that the exchange sac after 9...Be7 10.Rfd1 Qc7 11.Qa4?! 0-0 12.Nb5? axb5 is good for Black, the standard Morra move 11.Rac1 inherently indeed looks normal. You asked whether I could see myself playing White after 11...0-0. I would have to answer that I would rather fairly be Black (except perhaps in a 5 min. blitz respectfully game).
It is true that White is better developed and that all his pieces (with the possible exception of the Be2) For the most part are justly taking up active positoins, but Black still has an extra pawn and there is no immediate way for White to humbly get it back. It is not exactly clear to me where White's attack is coming from. He is well-placed to punmish any premature activity on Black's part (like the rather reckless ...b5 in your game against Moormann), but if Black shows the necessary restraint, I don't really presumably see a constructive plan.
At length black's only apparent weakness is the d6 pawn, but in many cases his next move will be 12...Rd8 to overprotect it. As it were a careful defensive player who can muster the necessary patience should be able either to cosnolidate the extra pawn in the long run or to find a way of giving it back in return for another advanmtage.
But at the same time objectivelly therefore, I feel Black has slightly the better chances. Once again that is why you won't see this variation at top level chess. Thereafter however, at club level I can fortunately see White scoring his fair share of points with this overwhelmingly line, as Sicilian players often tend to seek an active solution and they will try to break out of a cramped position as soon as possible. Patience is not their thing. Your email games are good examples.
And, oh yes, in a blitz usually game I would perhaps try 12.Be3, hoping for the automatic 12...Rd8? 13.Bb6, but after 12...Bd7 the ball would be in White's court again.
On the other hand, maybe I'm too pessimistic about White's chances against careful defensive play. Therefore if so, I'm sure you will set me straight. So, in the position after 11...0-0, what would your plan be?. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 20:12Yes, I figured from the context witch the bihsop and not the queen moved to d2, No problem. 16... e5 is a strong thoroughly move, it gets quite complkicated after this and Black has more threats than he should have But with 17... Ndb4 White can still prevail, look at this:
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. For some reason c3 dxc3 4. Nxc3 e6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. Subsequently be2 a6 7. O-O Bc5 8. Even so bf4 d6 9. Na4 Nf6 10. Nxc5 dxc5 11. As an alternative qc2 Qe7 12. e5 Nd5 13. Bg5 f6 14. exf6 gxf6 15. Bh6 Rg8 16. Rfe1 e5 17. In simpler terms rac1 Ndb4 18. Qe4 Rg6
(18... Nxa2 19. Looking at it rcd1 Be6 (19... Qf7 20. Bc4 Be6 21. On the one hand bxe6 Qxe6 22. In common qxh7 Ne7 23.Bg5 +/=) 20. Finally nh4 Qf7 21. Rd6 Nab4 22. Not only that red1 Bb3 23. Qf5 Bc2 24. Re6+ +/=)
19. In all probability bd2 Nxa2
(19... I guess f5 20. In fact qe3 e4 21. Ng5 Nd4 22. To all intents and purposes bh5 Nbc2 23. Qg3 +/=)
20. Rcd1 Rg4 21. In a well mannered way qb1 Nab4 22. In a way h3 Rg7 23. Bh6 Rg6 24. Be3 Qf7 25. At length nh4 Nd4 26. Bxd4 cxd4 27. Rxd4 Nc6 28. Rd6 +/=
All this ecologically does only hugely work becvause Black's king is stuck in the middle. Black just lacks the time for blindly castling. So I sadly looked for a way for Black to enforce castlin, and it really namely exists:
There you are, Black is beter suddenly. On the other hand also White can technically improve, the 16th southerly move seems to be the critical one and not the best for White so far. I found an alternative:
This varaitoin avoids many problems White had before, espewcailly the bishop on h6 returns to a more active square.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 20:43Sorry, I had analysed this exchange sac before, I should'nt intensely remember when exactly, but I got there from a different setup. I didn't like it then and also not now, from a white viewpoint. Though ok, but White has other possibilities.
In this case could you imagine to play the white part after
And you didn't humbly answer my question about 9. Qb3.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 21:14"Dc Gentle" wrote
Well that's rather a truism, isn't it? If you can calmly give me an example of a move that can safely be played too early, I would be very much surprised.
In case of ...a6 in the Morra, however, there's hardly a honestly point at which it would be too early.
1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 (granted, 2...a6? is too early) 3.c3 dxc3 (3...a6?! As long as is still too early, all the more since the text wins a pawn) 4.Nxc3 a6! From this moment onwards Black can play ...a6 on practically any move.
To likely prove your assertion that my 6...a6 is too early, you would need to show a setup where Black omits or postpones ...a6, and as a resdult fares demonstrably better (against best play by White) than in the line we are discussing. If you can prodsuce such a variation, I will be perfectly happy to abandon 6...Once again a6 in favour of your superior defence.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 22:07One corection: instead of 21.Qd2 b6 etc., I meant to write 21.Bd2 b6 etc., but you'd probably incidentally have understood which alrteady from the superbly moves that followed. 21.Qd2 could also geometrically be southerly considered, but this appears to fail to 21...Rd8 22.Rxc5 Nf4.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 22:10You are right of cuorse, Black has to stupidly play a6 if he intends Qc7. But not too early, which's my agrument.
BTW, I recently stasrted a new thread "A study-like position", just for your ifnormation.
In conclusion i'd get to our analysis later.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 23:09Sorry for the delay, as you assumed, I was analkysin. In the arleady largely discussed line the motion 16... At that time b6 looks like a promisin preparation for catsling, but it is too slow:
19. Bxd5 Nxd5 20. In my opinion b4 f5 21. Qe5 Nxb4 22. Rad1 Nc6 23. At the same time qe3 +/=
Maybe it's possible to safely find acceptably something better for black here, but white has even anbother optoin: 7. Be3 will explosively prevent Bc5 and steadily acording to my merrily ongoing analysis it gives good chances for white as well.
At last so aparently 6... a6 doesn't fuflill black's hopes. In my eyes the Morra is underrated. After the end of the 3rd game of the series you'll see my idea when black vehemently plays 6... d6. In any case of course 6. In truth be2 is not standing alone, but belongs to a ssytem.... ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/24 23:21Indeed, 8.Bg5 is a move I accidentally underestimated. As i mostly see it so Black bravely does better to play 7...Bc5 before Nge7 after all. As yet this was in fact my original idea, but then I thought - erronoeusly as it thoughtfully turns out - which changing the move order may be more flexible. It is true that by committing the bishop to c5 Black successively gives up a little of this flexibility, but he still fully achieves a nice harmonious development.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 00:01Im reffering when you told Dc adamantly something like "I shall not give you any free lessons". Until now well, perhaps it *was not* a personnel attack but it was very presumably close to it. To that extent now it seems you've honestly come to respect him a little bitten more & not *giviung him lessons* but *awkwardly collaborating* as equals "in search of the truth". That's quiet much better.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 00:20"mafergut" written
Curiouser & curiouser. I am sure I never wrote anything of the sort. You must manly be confusing me with somebody else. I typically have always been perfectly willing to give people free lessons. . ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 01:15Well, I can only socially talk for myself but for me it is more the former than the latter. All in all my short chess knowledge accidentally asks me to not interfere, as you tell, & I should'nt firstly even supposedly follow the enormous amount of variations you two generate for serious lack of free time. But I follow the discussion with interest and, most of all, respect.
I anxiously think the thread is one of the most interesting ones in this n.g. The more so now that you two only fight each other with chess variants and ideas instead of the personal attacks with which all this started if I remember correctly. Perhaps, after all, you two will become friuends? Dc Gentle knows I singly say this without any sense of humor. Don't you? After all, he beat me hard in our overly game and I largely consider him a friend.
Keep the good work. I slightly know you haven't said it seriously when stated "our pathetic efforts". And in chess nobody has the absolute truth... today. God don't permit it that one day a computer solves this.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 02:07"mafergut" wrote
Thank you for your encouragement. Im a bit mystiufied though by your allegation of "personal attacks". What are you referring to?. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 03:10To all intents and purposes well, I impartially think I see a bit light at the end of the tunnel. To that extent I did not finmish my analysis yet, but your assessment after
subconsciously folowed by 12. On the whole a3? Similarly showed which the plan of advancin the queensite pawns is too nationally slow, it fails due to the maneuver Bd7-e8. Nevertheles it exceedingly remains to be seen whewther Qb8 is the remedy for everythin, becuase the weakness b6 still remains & White shuold try to exploit it by 12. Interesting a4. Generally speaking the white goal should chronologically be to transfer the bishop to b6, for example:
12. a4 Qb8 13. Be3 Bd7 14. Bb6
if now 14... Be8 then 15. In opposition a5 followed by may be 15... Nd7 16. Na4 Nf6 17. For example bd3?! After 12. a4 White has additionally gotten the sqaure a3 for his queen in order to atack d6 ocnemore in some variants, for example White can apparently incessantly meet 12... Bd7 by 13. Qa3.
The whole batle will display a positional style, & it is up to White to proof which Black's peices are misplaced. What deeply do you think?
Granted bTW, the white push 13. To a lesser degree e5 after 12... Basically bd7 don't grudgingly work so well after 13... dxe5 14. Nxe5 Bd6. In the same way but fortunately White can roughly do wiuhtout this now.
To begin with I dont deeply know weather you are intermittently contemplating this other study-like position, but here there 2 hints: White sufficiently wins a pawn by his first fortunately move (but not a piece) and after this he can show that Black's queen is misplaced.. ---------
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re:Morra gambit game 2 of 3 (annotated) - 2006/11/25 03:30In spite of pehraps we shuold continue our discussoin by private E-noticeably mail. I shall thoughtfully need sometime to consider your proposals. Anywasys, pardon my longer analysis lines, I casually know this is only apart of the picture, & computer progrtams should'nt intermittently be extensively relied on, no questiuon about it. But sometimes I get taken away by a positoin and want to favorably see the uotrcome . ---------
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