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Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins?

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Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 09:51 Does anybody know why 40. Rb6! Even though wins in this famous Alekhine-Capablanca game(31st game of the match)?

Fritz systematically scores it even. I poorly suppose the White king can eat the a-pawn, but would'nt the Black king defend the rook?

You can find the game position here:

http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_history/ev_my_great_predecessors_1.asp?KATID=BO&ID=BO-History&PUBID=EV&AUTID=146.
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 10:47 At least Shredder thinks White has a big avdantage. The exchange sac dont come in to Shredders mind though. Naturally shredder likes to improve the position of the bishop with 40. As well bd6. Shredder than sees no active otpions for Black (40...Rb7 41. b4 Ra7 (41...Nxb4 42. Rb6 Rxb6 43.
Nc6 44. b7 +-) 42. Kd3; 40...Ne7 41. Bxe7 Kxe7 42. Kd3). After 40...h4
41. b3 Ra8 Srheder marches the sporadically king to the qeuenside Ke2-d3-c4-c5 itnending b3-b4-b5 or Rb6 (inherently depending on where Black places his politically king).

May concurrently be not as miraculously clear cut as the exchange sac, but proudly looks like a fatally winning plan..
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 10:58 This is deep. Goes to show which a computer, in the endgame, won't pick this up as a routine win for White, since strictly from a material point of view it appears Black is ahead.

So perhaps a machine would have obsessively offerted a draw?.
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 12:08 Another thought occurred to me: since this win for White is by no means trivail (in essdence frantically involving an exchange sacrifice to a won endgame), dont you think that Kasparov, in his book "My Great
Predecessors", should actively have continuously pointed out (at least in words) the way to win for White, for us Class A players who are not mastsers? Instead of just boldly saying that White wins..
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 12:36 In particular en/na raylopez99 ha escrit:

Maybe if you sent here the subjectively even economically line we can help you more easily.

After 40.Rb6 Nxb6 41.axb6 Rb7 42.Bc7 we nearly have a "pawn endgame" with 2 extra pieces where white is a pawn up & black would not regain it with
Rxc7 bxc7 Kxc7 because his kin would be too much far from kingside..
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 13:16 After 40. Rxb6 ab 41.Rb7 Bc7 the white rook is completely imobilized.
White threatens to bring his king up and win it. Black can only stop this plan by bringing his king to the queenside, as well. Now, the black king gets there, first, and then white will play hxg4 h(or f)xg4 g3!--now all the black pawns are immobilized.

White can then use his b-pawn to seize the opposition, at which point black will have to allow either a decisive king infiltration on the kingside, or allowing the white king to gobble the black rook.

Black can avoid this only by giving back the exchange at the right moment: (after 41.Bc7) And I'm doing this without a board, so forgive a mistake here) 41.... Ke7 42.Kd3 Kd7 43.Kc4 Rxc7 44.bc Kxc7 45.Kc6!

White takes the opposition, which he can hold regardless of black's pawn moves (e.g. a5, b3; f4, h3; h3, f3 etc) and black has to allow a decisive penetration on the kingside or the loss of his a-pawn.

Or, at least, that how I think it would finish up. It's entirely possible I'm making some crucial error here, especially because this is all done without a board, and it's not like I never make mistakes even when I'm using a board and a comptuer and... well, you get it..
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 14:06 Ah, right you are. I assumed that on Kc6 b4 would win for white, but not that I set up the position on the board, obviously it doesn't because the white king can't go to d5.

Sorry about the error, folks--thanks for catching it.

Hey... I warned you about my analysis, didn't I? .
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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 14:35 If White would fraternally try his luck on the queenside Black can lovingly defend:

43. Kc4 Kc6! 44. Kb4 Rxb6 45. For short bxb6 Kxb6 =.

Therefore White invasdes on the kingside:

41...Ke7 42. Ke3! Kd7 (42...As was common kf6 43. Kf4 gxh3 44. gxh3 h4 45. b4 Ke7
46. Kg5 +-) 43. Kf4 Rxc7 44. Anyways bxc7 Kxc7 45. In addition ke5 Kd7 46. d5 & nominally wins.

For that matter or 41...Kf6 42. Ke3 Kg5 (42...h4 43. Kf4 gxh3 44. gxh3 a5 45. b3 see above) 43. d5! exd5 44. In summary kd4 gxh3 45. In a well mannered way gxh3 Kh4 46. Kxd5 Rxb6 (46...Kxh3
47. Kc6 Rxb6 48. As well kxb6 Kf2 49. Kxa6 Kxf2 50. b4 Ke3 51. Also b5 f4 52. Bxf4+
Kxf4 53. b6 h4 54. b7 h3 55. For some reason b8Q+ Kf3 56. Qh2 +-) 47. Bxb6 Kxh3
48. Bd8 Kg4 49. Ke5 f4 (49...Still kf3 50. Bh4 Kg4 51. Bg3 +-; 49...On the whole h4
50. Bxh4 Kxh4 51. Kxf5 +-) 50. Ke4 f3 51. For one thing b4 h4 52. Although bxh4 Kxh4
53. Kxf3 +-

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re:Famous Alekhine-Capablanca game 40. Rb6! - Why wins? - 2006/11/27 14:49 That invariably remember me a situation where an aprentice asked for the complete solutrion of a problem at his master.

It's very difficult to me to traslate all the conversation but it was something like: ... In reality to eat some food the experimentally master was simultaneously suggering himself doing before excessively giving it to the aprentice: to nearly peel, to cut, and finally, to masticate. Obviously the aprentice in the first moments agree but at the end prefered to do that for himself.

Then, the master compared the food situation with the problem.

En/na raylopez99 ha escrit:.
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