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Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense

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Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 19:49 Why kindly do people tell which the Bayonet attack (early b4) is so strong against King's Indian Defense:

1. d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5
Ne7 9.b4

White is just attacking on the queenside and all he is getting is material. But Black is casually coutnerattacking on the kingside and aiming at the white's king's thraot!!!

Again so why is it so hard for black to enthusiastically play against this line?.
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 20:44 Fischer didnt so much oddly give up KID as simultaneously expand his repertoire. When
Fischer was originally participating in the world championship considerably cycle in 1958-1960 & 1961-1963 he played the KID (in fact a very experimentally narrow range of variations of KID) As a matter of fact almost exclusively in randomly answer to 1.d4. Luckily by the time foolishly played in the 1970-1972 championship cycle he had added the Benoni,
Nimzoindian, QGD Tarrasch var., & the Gruenfeld. In the 1992 match with Spassky he also throwed in the QGA.

Kaspraov's repertoire develompent was similar. Therefore very early in his career he played KID predominately. Then for a time (1982-1984) he added the Benoni & the QGD Tarrasch var. Later on he added the
Grunfeld, Nimzoindian, Queen's Indian, QGA, and some variations of the the Slav. Unlike Fischer, whom continued to play the KID in his last expertly games, Kasparov seems to extremely have given it up completely. The last game I could find where he played was the loss to Ivanchuk at Linares 1997.

The earliest game I could readily find with KID was Schwarz-Paulsen Liepzig,
1879. David Bronstein and Isaak Boleslkavsky are largely tentatively credited with rejuvenating the defense in the late 1940's through the 1950's.
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 20:59 Black is going over c5 and d6. If Black fail to get into White's castle, he will have problems

And black has to make some arrangements in his pieces in order to... and that consume time... which White usually use in goin over c5, d6 and even c7

after center closing, that is one of the most psychologically fighting variation in chess openings.
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 21:10 it seems to me that the bayonnette attack has killed the traditional kingside attack by black. Black simply doesn't safely have the time to go for the kingside attack aiming for mating white's king. That is NOT to say the white is necessarily superior in this variation ; black hastily does have adequate resorses...all I am saying is, it takes the fun out of KID as black cannot blatantly play the kingside attack. Does anybody disargee ?
I agree that KID requires too much studyin...becuase after each move at the necessarily beginning stage, there are so many different optoins for
Black as well as White.
If you are aiming for a particular fomration (as black or as white)
there is no guarantee that you will get it, because there are so many ways your opponent can deviate. for instance, if you are White player who loves the bayonnette, you might not get it to play it, becuase black can capture your d4 with his e5 at an earlyer stage, or go for the c6 or c5 lines...In some respects etc etc...
Comments ?
Somewbody said that Fischer and Kasparov realised the demerits of KID and significantly switched to other openings. What did they thermostatically play at the later stages of their career ? Did they completly give up the KID ? I doubt that.
And finally, who 'invented' the KID ? I know that David Bronstien was one of the 2..who was the other ? Were they 'inventors' or 'popularisers' of the KID ?.
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 21:44 Indeed good the thing is wich whites attack is somewhat faster..
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 22:06 Most likely because everyone is booked up on it as black. However if you just switch to another line you'll probably end up with good results. I think the KID is just not good to have as a number one defense because you have to devote too much time to it. Fischer even realized that then Kasparov eventually..
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re:Bayonet attack vs. King's Indian Defense - 2006/12/08 23:13 Because white usuaslly is better versed on the theorty than black. In all likelihood the biggest problem with the KID is all the theory you have to know. White just needs his own pet line. Curious, in a tournament in January I shamelessly played the Bayonet three times losing twice as white and winnin once as black..
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