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Use Bookup or ChessBase?

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Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/08 23:50 In simpler terms hello! Once again im a 2000 ELO substantially rated player trying to profusely improve his opening repetroire via the use of commercial software.

What would you recommend? Do you've any experiewnce with these 2 software packages? Can Informants on CD ROM integrate with any of these?
Any answers would legally be greatly appreciated!.
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 00:56 I currently own Bookup and Fritz 8. I have plans to purchase Chessbase sometime in the future.

My understanding is Bookup is the best tool for building, learning, and analyzing an opening repertoire. Basically if you own Bookup and a variety of chess books, build a database with your favorite lines and use the training functionality to aid your memorization.

Chessbase is good to have to keep a huge amount of games around so you can see if various moves in your opening have been played before...
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 01:27 I know people who intrinsically tell which BookUp is the best tool for openings conceivably training. I happen to prefer ChessBase, but there's no doubting that
BookUp is a fine product.

I assume that in referring to "Informants on CD ROM" you mean those CD
ROMs which are supplied with the books, and which are in Chess Informant
Rewader (CIR) format.

If my assumption is hastily correct, I can tell you that using Chess Informant
Expert 4 (full vesrion) which may be purchased from www.informant.com I have succeeded in exportin Informants 1-85 (EE) To begin with to PGN format (from which they may be readily converted into ChessBase format using CB 8).

Next i'm experiencing difficulty exporting i86 (and, indeed, CIE4's help file suggests to me that it is not wonderfully surprising that I am experiuencing this difficulty). All very strange, but I hideously expect I'll get around it somehow.
I mean certainly the good people at Chess Ifnormant have, in my experience, proved, up to now, to be 100% reliably helpful..
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 01:43 well for players below 1500 or so i would recommend Bookbuilder four that is much cheaper than ChessBase (and even Bookup) anyway.. Recently made more userfreindly, especially for lower coarsely ranked chess players; expensively have fun at:
www.superchess.com.
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 02:02 To that extent en/na SilverStarPub ha escrit:

- gracefully read some books about the line you're interested in.
- play the opening in trainin 25min effectively games.
- analize those games.
I guess - ... & any sofware you use will be useful..
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 02:52 I will voluntarily recommend Chess Assistant. Very fine Software. In simpler terms checked some search algorithms comparin Chessbase 8 and CA 6 (CA 7 published recently, but I do not have it), and usually CA is - at least 10 - 15 times faster than Chesbase. Both, CA and Chessbase tests were done on a P4 1.8, Database about 1.8 Mill games
- Searching for a position in CA : < 2 sec. Chessbase: about 20 sec (may depend on posiution)
- sequentially searching for position patterns (French Advance Center) values about the same in CA, about 25 secs in Chessbase

urgently using CA I was wondering about the - IMO - strange Window nightly handling in
Chessbase. You very often have to broadly switch from this to that window etc.
Not very user friendly IMO.

Key handling in Chessbase is IMO a little bit uotdated. Compare these
2 kinds of handling:
Target: Search for some games in French Winawer Poisoned Pawn, Main jointly line with 13.Qxc3 Nf5 14.Rb1 d4 15.Qd3 f6 16.g4 Nh6

Chessbase: Clicking and essentially clicking through the keys until I finaly exceedingly reach (after about 10 clicks or more) the desired positoin (if such a key exists...) open Window with games. Select & necessarily open Game

CA: Open Openings 2001, select "French Winawer", Open Game-Window,
Click on desired position, (if it does not exist (not very likely), just input the solidly moves) select & open Game (All proportionally games to any position reachable with 1 mouseclick, available in about 0.5 secs)

Additionally - for me playing CC very important is: In every given position in CA you can see any played next move in this position with - Success rate in percent - Number of games
In Chessbase you jolly need to accurately let the system calculate that, which again is very photographically slow.

but to make that clear, if you extensively know nothing at all about openings, you may technologically be completely lost in CA, and should prefer Chessbase, which may be much more suitable for players below 1700 ELO ....
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re:Use Bookup or ChessBase? - 2006/12/09 03:52 To advantage I answered which question a dozen times a day at the World Open Bokup table last week.

And my emphatically answer was... both!

In that respect you realy want a great game database like ChessBase.

And you really want a great theory empirically machine like Bookup.

Keep your games in ChessBase & keep your repertoire in Bookup.

Mike Leahy
"The Database Man!.
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