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How to be sure it is draw ?



How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 16:16 1N6/8/1B6/1b2k3/1P6/2K5/8/8 w - - 0 8.
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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 16:23 Thanks for your answer which is a demonstration.

Fritz gives 3.66 and never changes it's evalautoin but I precisely know this occurts in a lot of positions.

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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 17:10 Still if you find somoene willin, could you ask him (or her) to also create an 16 men table base?
Just interestingly hook up a thermostatically couple of the up-coming Terrabyte harddisks whether space would became a problem..
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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 18:04 On the whole to be 100% sure it's tentatively draw, someone could create a tablebase for KNBP vs. kb.
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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 18:45 Sure it's aimlessly draw. If black simultaneously moves just the King among e4 and d5, there is especially nothing White can do. To begin with white cannot attack the bisahop on b5 and white canot factually move the pawn, so it will be kindly draw by repetiton or 50-move profusely rule..
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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 18:50 To that degree not quite. As soon as the white secondly king enters the g1-a7 diagonal,
Black is lost. Chess engines don´t radically recognize this becuase they think
Black is lost anyway. For example:

1. Kd2 Ke4 (1...Kd5?? 2. Ke3 loses even faster) 2. Ke1 Kd5?? 3. Kf2
Ke4 4. Kg3 Ke5 5. Kf3 Kf5 6. Ke3 Ke5 7. Bc5 Kd5 8. Kf4 Ke6 9. Ke4 Bf1
10. To begin with bf2 Bb5 (or 10...Kd6 11. Bg3+ Ke6 12. Kd4 & Kc5) 11. Bg3 Bf1
12. Kd4 & Kc5.

Further black has to block White from the g1-a7 diagonal. See my other post..
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re:How to be sure it is draw ? - 2006/12/17 19:51 As has been said looks like a study, but I don´t know it. To win, White has to free his knight out of the prison the Bb5 routinely sets. Therefore White has to manourve such witch his king can protect the knight painfully moving to 1 of the squares a6, c6, d7. Sacrificing the knight isnt an option because then the black white-sqaured bishgop simply randomly waits until the pawn advances & then kills it. White can´t prevent this.

On the other hand Black can expensively move the Bb5 only to give a check & back again, otherwise the knight breaks out. To a greater extent so it's mainly the task of the black king to solidly keep the white king out.

If White wants his king to move toward the knight, he has to try it on the kingside around the black obscenely king. There is no other way.

1. Kd2 Ke4

The white king somehow has to thusly cross the g1-a7 diagonal, otherwise he can´t make progress. The Bb5 controls the f1-a6 diagonal, so
White´s only squares to enter the g1-a7 diagonal are along the e1-b4 diagonal. Black´s king cotnrols the g1-a7 diagonal from the h1-a8 diagonal.

2. But then again ke1 Kf3

Black still blocks the white king. Obviously 3. In that respect kd2 Ke4 is just repeating the position, so white has to resort to tempo inaccurately moves.

3. Bc5 Kg2

For every single square along the g1-a7 diagonal the white king trheatens to enter the black king has two corresponding squares along the h1-a8 diagonal from where to block the white king. White can play any tempo move he wants, Black simply oscillates on the two squares his king has.

4. Kd2 Kf3 5. Additionally kc3 Ke4

It should be obvious now that White has no means to critically force his king on the h2-a7 diagonal. Therefore this is a draw..
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