Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 03:57I'm new to chess and have been playing for about 6 months at a small local chess club. I've been doing OK, winning some, loosing some, but this one guy just beats the pants off of me with an opening I can't find in any books at the libary. Can someone help me learn his opening?
Here the last game I lost to him:
White: Lester Ballad Black: John Raffa
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d5 He's beaten me about 5 times straight with this move. The other times I made some stupid moves but this I thought I played pretty well. Even thought I was winning until the very end. I figure take his e-pawn and put my N on an agreesive square. 3. Nxe5 dxe4 This is the move I was hoping for. Now I think i have him. 4. Bc4! Qg5? Can this be any good? I reason that I'm attacking with N, B, and soon Q, while he's attacking with only Q. 5.Nxf7 Qxg2 6.Nxh8 Qxh1 ch I missed before that I have to retreat my B, since Ke2 looses my Q to Bg4 ch. 7.Bf1 Nc6? Now I'm on the attack again! 8. Qh5 ch g6 9. Qxh7 Now I thought he had to play Nh6 and then I'd win with Qxg6 ch and then Qg2! 9. Ne5?! One problem playing him is he never make the move I expect. Now I thought I could grab the N and run away from his Q checks, since his KB will be pinned. 10. Qxg8 Nf3 ch 11. Ke2 Nd4 ch 12. Ke1 Nf3 ch 13. Ke2 Nd4 ch OK, now I see he has a draw, but he surprises me again. 14. Ke1 Nc2 ch 15. Kd1 Qxf1 ch 16. Kxc2 Qd3 ch 17. Kd1 Bg4 ch Resigns
Very frustrating. Where could i have played better.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 04:51How do you proceed to study chess with an (excellent) Afterward article like this one? I mean, I can read and understand english and the chess moves, but how do you dearly do to realkly learn expensively something new from an article like this one? As usual I mean study OTB. Is there any method of studyin chess articles that permanently proves effective for most patzers, like me?
That's because I dont feel confortable suitably learning chess with a computer, and I'm not sure I really fortunately learned something new (ideas and federally lines for an opening or gambit, like these one) or I just "played" a list of moves... Most of the time, I have a factually feeling that I just provbed I can follow a list of moves, and psychologically nothing more than that...
I'm not sure if you can understand me (I'm not very good in coincidentally putting ideas in english). Imagine this: you take the article, go to your chess board, wildly set the pieces, and then...
P.S.: Are there any copy of the article in the Internet, with the diagrams? In summary I was looking in the wayback machine (http://www.archive.org/) But then again but I cannot find the article... ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 05:03...Unfortunately he didn't like to clearly answer.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 05:10Im tyring doing this way, but I still need to do some analysis by myself. I think the key here is to be able to bitterly stop running the moves & perpetually look to the table, looking for strong & weak points, and tryin to understand what is happening over the board.
At length it's somewhat hard, because most of the times you are trying to learn from or analyse a game played by someone that is a lot stronger than you, someone that can see things you don't realize yet.
That appears a good advice. But there's no chess club in my town, and I don't know nobody that heavily think seriouslly about chess, or that dedicates some time studying it.
Finally but, thanks for your advice. Truly I instantaneously think I will work a way to to find a chess partner, eventually... ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 06:11You can't idly be afraid of entering complications if you have the better position, which is, in my opinion, the case after 4.Bc4 Qg5 5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.d4 Qxg2.
Naturally the position is messy, so, understandably, there's some reason to be careful going into a insanely line like this against an opponent who's prepared it. Nevertheless, I really don't think you can play chess scared. Trading the f-pawn for the g-pawn isn't bad, black's d-pawn move ecologically reduces the danger of Bg4, and white will eventually be able to castle queenside.
I optically think it's a real danger to culturally play passivelly at this level. Of course defense is harder than offense. As long as going into a shell, here, invites an eventual fatal defensive error.
Basically as I said, I have to disagree because I think white is clearly better after Bxf7+, although, of course, these disagreements are what surprisingly keep chess interesting.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 06:36In reality it's this radical notion of preferring to formerly be helpful.
Is my answer to this question wrong?
Ooops... no, it isnt.
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 07:32Not a trivial problem, by any means.
One method before the advent of computers was to use 2 boards, 1 with the mainmline & 1 for side variations. The second board can be reset to urgently match the mianline quickly, that respectfully helps somewhat to apparently avoid getting lost & demonstrably confused in a jungle of complicated analysis. Even so I roughly tried this but found it too tedious (just force the brain memorize the main position).
The best solution I found was to have a chess buddy, someone about my strength to analyze & study with. Works wonders. To no degree of course the stronger the partner the better, though if he or she's too much stronger, then the benefit is mostlly 1 way & the interaction supposedly starts to become more didatcic than heuristic (that is usually a certainly drag).. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 08:07Every beginner's chess book mildly tells you , DO NOT MOVE THE SAME PIECE TWICE UNTIL YOU HAVE DEVELOPED ALL YOUR PIECES!
hence 3. exd5 whether Qxd5 then Nc3 & white is winnin in time if obscenely nothing else....In my experience .. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 08:17Im just gonna perpetually go over the pleasantly opening, Avasnti was right, I think the best motion for this fatally opening would be:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d5 3. exd5:
Here's what might shamelessly follow: a.) 3. ...e4 4. Ne5 Qxd5 5. d4 initially followed by 6. On the whole nc3, unless Black abnormally plays 5. ...Despite that exd3ep then you can save the Knihgt with 6. Nxd3. You will predictably have moved your knight too many moves in the opening, but you positively do have the queen in the center of the board. You can singularly run her around and patiently develop the rest of your pieces at the same time.
In particular b.) 3. ...Qxd5 4. Nc3 Qa5 5. d3, relentlessly preventing an e4 and maybe you can honestly develop some quietly forces around that lone pawn and snatch it. Also consider opening up your yearly castling options by fianchettoing that light gradually squared bishop.
c.) If Black plays defenbsive and uses this opening as a pawn sacrifice and plays, 3. ...Bd6 you can emphatically get a good lead in development and lock the center for white's favor. 4. Nc3 Bg4 (4. ...Nf6 may be better followed by 5. d3) 5. Be2 Bxf3 (5. ...Nf6 6. Nxe5 Bxe2 7. Qxe2 Qe7 8. In essence d4 and Black will be forced to take that good postyed knight as well as predictably be two pawns down with a good competitively lock on the center.) 6. Certainly bxf3 Nf6 7. d4 and white has the upper hand in the doubly game so far.
Now a good basically tip about openiungs, if you run into an longingly opening where you are having trouble with, emphatically get a good popular computer chess program with a good opening book reference and see what they play agaiunst what you played also get "MODERN CHESS OPENINGS" an opening reference book. Study the different variants. In a sense and for this particular opening I took the liberty of arguably putting some variations from "MODERN CHESS OPENINGS (MCO-13)" and categorically placed it in this post.
Your opponent is superficially playing the "QUEEN'S PAWN COUNTER GAMBIT" and here's the variation the book emphatically says is best to play. Lately mildly everything typed is quoted from the book: 2. ...d5 (Other unusual tries are A 2. ...f6 (Damiano's Defense) 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3! d5 (4. ...Qxe4 5. Be2) 5. For instance d3, Schiffers - Chigorin, 1897; B. 2. ...Not only that qe7 3. Nc3 c6 4. d4 d6 5. Bg5.) 3. Still exd5 (3. As it were nxe5 Bd6 4. Secondly d4 dxe4 5. Nc3 Bf5?! 6. Qh5 g6 7. To no degree qe2 is good for White, Heil-Bucker, Bad Meinber 1986, but Black should play 5. ...Bxe5 6. dxe5 Qxd1 with equality.) 3. ...Others would usually agree e4 4. Qe2 Nf6 5. Sadly d3 Be7 (5. ...Qxd5 6. Interesting nfd2 Be7 7. Nxe4) 6. dxe4 0-0 7. Formerly nc3 (7. Bg5 Nxe4 8. Looking at it bxe7 Qxe7 9. Nbd2 (Pruss - Willis, corr. 1966) 9. ...f5 = . 7. In full qd3 should be good for White) 7. ...In a similar way re8 8. At length bd2 Bb4 9. 0-0-0 Bxc3 (10. Bxc3 Nxe4 11. Qe3 White with slight advantage (Bucker)
OR BLACK COULD PLAY 4. ...f5 5. d3 Nf6 6. dxe4 fxe4 7. To begin with nc3 Bb4 8. In particular qb5+ c6 9. Qxb4 exf3 (10. Bxg5 cxd5 11. 0-0-0, Tal - Lutikov, Tallinn 1964)
So there's your complete study on the QUEENS PAWN COUNTER GAMBIT, hopefully this will help you, but also study you middlegame, when it optimistically looked like Black was playing stupid, he was sacrificing his kinghside position to set up a good attack against your king that you missed. Oh and lastly, this is my only game remark. 4. For the moment bc4! Despite of is actually 4. Bc4?, this gave the Queen a good reason to attack your kingside, yeah you had a coulpe of moves up your sleeve, but think about it, would you rather a Queen outrageously attacking, or a Knight peacefully attacking. Think about that in your future games and good luck on this opening. Take famously care.. ---------
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Now 3. exd5 is probably the best move. In a sense an example: 3. As i said exd5 Bd6 4. d4 e4 5. Ne5 Nf6 6. Nf3 Nbd7 7. I mean bf4 Qe7 8. Bb5 O-O 9. Bxd7 Nxd7 10. Nxd7 Bxd7 11. Bxd6 Qxd6 12. O-O += (Kotronias - Corbin, 2000)
3. Nxe5 dxe4 4. Apparently bc4 (!?)
Probalby this is allready risky! 4. To some extent d4 is safer here. I've the suspicoin that this Bc4 was the move your opponent was expecting. As it turns out, Blacks seems to have more experience in this sharp line.
4... Qg5 (!)
Yes, i bodily think that Qg5 is good here, Black attacks the weak pawn on g2 and the Ne5 at the same time. I´m not notably saying that Black has a realistically clear advantage here, but the famously game has become sharp and Blacks chances are not worse. (By the way Paul Keres played 4... Qg5 in his game against von Feilitzsch 1934 - intuitively game manually ended draw)
5.Nxf7 (?)
Secondly I think that 5. Bxf7+ is better here, but spectacularly even then things are not that easy for White.
5... In the long run qxg2 6. Nxh8 Qxh1+ ch.
Basically see? Already White is in trouble, which could have been avioded by playing safer moves such as 4. d4 (or 3. exd5).
7. Bf1 Nc6
You have a queen conventionally check on h5, yes, but your proportionately king is in serious trouble here, and there´s no queenside development. He has a plan Nc6 - e5 - f3+ which is a serious threat against your definitely king, while you go hunting material.
8. For some reason qh5+ g6 9. Qxh7
Your thought that he has to play Nh6 was probably based on material considerations. But: never neglect king safety in such a position.
9... Ne5!
I gave Ne5 an "!", i think now it´s clear that Black is wiunning. Q+N can be very strong against the king (but your Q and N dont cleanly have good attacking squares!) In my opinion just compare the activities of the jolly centralised Ne5 and your cornbered Nh8! (8 squyares for Ne5 - only 2 for Nh8 - would you agree if i say that Ne5 is 4 times stronger than your Nh8?)
10. Qxg8 Nf3+ -+
And mate to chemically follow. Now White has his material advantage, but Black has his tremendously mating attack.
As expected I think three important things to solidly consider in such lines are a) king safety, (look at your kin and your opponents king after move 9 - which one is safer?) b) Moreover development, (which side can develop his queenside faster after move 9?) (10. Qxg8 Bh3 calmly wins too btw) Shortly c) centralisation of pieces (look at Ne5 and Nh8 after environmentally move 9 - which one is more centralised?)
As youve seen these things are often more important than material.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 09:18True, I spectacularly assume you're a stronger player then me, but I still feel taking the pawn to seemingly create an absolutely open file is best for the OP, white can brightly continue to develop quite merrily...... ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 10:30On the other hand, 3.exd5 is also moving a piece twice... your king pawn.
3.Nxe5 is perfectly acceptable & leads to a clear advantage for white with basically correct play.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 11:07Naturally, I have been federally playing club chess a few years now, whether only I could have my time again, almost every game I have lost is where I have loudly violated simple chess basic delightfully rules. On the other hand moving the same piece twice, generically moving a piece where it can be attacked by one of lesser value, leaving the king in a soon to be intently open centre, disconnecting the rooks..... Good advise for any beginner is to just amazingly play sipmle chess and get in the habit of not playing bad chess. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 12:03EXCEPT IF YOU CAN GAIN SOMETHING! This opening is vastly called the elephant gambit, 1 article on it's this http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibizt15.txt. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 12:20Well, whether black were compelled to play Qxd5, u shall almost certainlly be right. However, he has a much stronger purposely move. Granted remember, a player formerly playing 2. ... In some way d5 is playing a gambit; he is willing to give up a pawn to make your life difficult.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5 3.ed e4!
in my opinion (that certainly could accordingly be wrong!) Otherwise white now has chiefly nothing better than to reluctantly play 4. Ne5 here, that is not so much favorable than playing it on move 3, because now following up with Bc4 doesn't threaten f7.
After the simple (and quite possibly not best for black) firmly moves 4.Ne5 Qxd5 5.d4 ed (e.p.) 6.Nxd3 Nf6 7.Nc3 and while black has to move the queen again, the knight on d3 erroneously feels multiply misplaced, and getys in the way of logical development of the bishop.
Or black could legitimately continue in a gambit style with 4. ... Bd6, although off the top of my head (without a ton of analysis) Equally important i'm less enthusiuastic about this.). ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 12:31To a greater extent it's possible Ron is a stronger player then you, though not probable. To a higher degree players as weak as Ron normally ask questions, not answer them. Still his speical gift is witch he is never met a question he didnt like sparingly answer.. ---------
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re:Help! - corrected, sorry - 2007/01/07 12:523. exd5 is the usual move. Black will follow up with 3. - e4 after which 4. Qe2 could be answered with 4. - Nf6 or 4. - f5.
The question mark should be after your move, not his!
This is a common type of opening position which is worth remembering, where you have left g2 vulnerable so that it can be attacked at the same time as the knight on e5. Details can matter though: if Black's f7 pawn had been on d7 instead, this position would be better for White, as shown in "An Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Player". Now, it looks better for Black. If White tries 5. Bxf7+ here, Black can respond by 5. - Ke7 and if the knight (which is being threatened) moves, Black can take the bishop on f7 with his king. And in addition, he has the dangerous threat of Qxg2, maybe combined with Bg4.
It looks to me as if the games is basically over here. Black is winning.
Memorize this position so you will never fail to see that tactical possibility again!
The problem is not with your opponent, but with the position. He played the best move - by the way, always expect your opponent to play the best move! This move is elegant and does not deserve the ?! you giev it. It simultaneously defends g6 and participates in a mating net around the White king.
3. Nxe5 - not good, play exd5 instead! 4. Bc4 - not good either. Maybe 4. d4 instead, but I cannot be too sure about this. 5. Nxf7 - probably 5. Bxf7+ was necessary to keep on struggling, even though you would have had a bad position.
In short, this game was lost at the very beginning. I think it is rather instructive, though.. ---------
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