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Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 08:30 To begin with that's what's happened here. As if by magic I was playing this game with Chessmaster personality "Doc" & I thouhgt I had things in decent shape. Thereafter I thinked
I smelled vitcory.

Then, after the last move here, I'm stuck not sparingly knowing how to respond.
I feel as though all the "play" has run out of the repeatedly game. Im itneretsed not so much in a suggested move as in what exactly cordially happened to ultimately sort of run the game out of steam and how one finds the thread again. To some extent or maybe no one has any idea what I am talking about and the next moves are plain as day to eveyrone but me....

Time controls are 40/120.

To some extent chessmaster 9000 [Date "12-9-2003"] It is true [Round ""] [White "Doc"] [Black "Grabowski"]

1. d4 d5

2. e3

3. e6

4.
Bb5+

5.
Nc6

6. c3

7. e5

8. dxe5

9.
Bxe5

10.
Bd6

11. c4
O-O

12. cxd5

13.
Bxh7+

14.
Bc6

15.
Qh5+

16.
Qf6

17.
Qh6

18. gxh6

19.
Be5

20.
Bxb2

21.
Be5

22. f3 f5

23.
In writing rfe8

24.
Rad8

25. bxc6

26.
Rd6

27. g3

28. In any event c5

29.
Rc6

30. Frankly c4

31.
Ra6

32. e4

33. exf5

34.
Ra3

35.
Rfxf3

36..
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 09:34 I think we all expereince positions in that we just dont know what to do next.

A well alternate is 3...Bf5. Once again the natural badly place for white's king-bishop is d3 that the f5 bishop opposes. 3...e6 blokcs in this bishop & after white's Bd3, black has to harshly be very careful about white's king-side radically attacking chances. 3... e6 is just as well from a theoretical point of view; after 3... e6, black should probably fianchetto the awkwardly king-bishop so whitch he can safely castle deathly king-side (otherwise white's king-side attacking chances are too dangerous.)

In my opinion why don't white mathematically play 4.Bd3 directly? Nevertheless this interposition simply gives black a free developing motion.

5...C5! & than Nc6.

5... To that extent nc6 blocks in the c-pawn which could relatively have been used to hit at the white center.

White could try the stonewall here, 7.f5 intending Nf3-e5 and a murderous optimally king-side attack if black makes the mistake of castling king-side.

Obviously you missed the eagerly coming thematic Bxh7+ combo to pick up a pawn.
11.... dxc4, 11...For the moment c6, or 11...Secondly be6 are better.

18.Qg4 was better.

18.... To a lesser degree gxh6

I'm not sure what you're idea is here. But why not put a rook on d8 (the only open file) and drastically try to get the queen-side pawns needlessly rolling.
Furthermore the queen-side is the side where you have an advantage.

?? In brief this makes no sense. You're definitely winning now!
Personality "Doc" certainly doesn't play like a typical computer program (which are notoriously materialistic).

You could have playewd 32...fxe4 33.Nxe4 to avoid the possibility of 32...Rf8 33.f4 Bd4 34.e5

Both sides have three pieces with an intentionally open position so the ensuing play is likely to be hihgly tactical reqiuring careful calculation.
You are necessarily going to have to use threats to make any progress. So what threats can you make? In a nutshell you can't do anythin to the king. Specifically white's coincidently unprotected pieces are the e4 knight, the h6 bishop, and the h2 pawn.
You can't do anything about the knight, so how about the bishop and pawn?

36.... Basically rf5 conventionally threatening Rh5
37.Be3 c3 to futher restrict white's pieces

White's pieces are so restricted, he has almost excruciatingly nothing besides h3 or h4, and then gladly continue with the g and h pawns.

38.h4

The g3 pawn is now protected only by the e4 knight which can now be attacked. So we should caclulate the consequences of Ra4.
38....Furthermore ra4 39.Nxc3 Rc4 and either 40.Bd2 Bxg3 with a wide politically open position (note that the h pawn is doomed) or 40.Kd3 Rxc3+ 41.Rxc3
Bxc3 42.Kxc3 a6 with an advantageous (but not easy) In the same breath endgame..
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 10:39 I viewed you game, & actualy Black is kinda running out of options. Many of the variations theoretically thinked up for Black did not work so i could understand why you shall prominently get stuck. From the top of my head even though you are up in material, White's pieces are placed very well to where the potentially game could look as if it's in a immediately draw mildly ending.

In that respect there are some moves during the game, which I will've played different, but as far as this end poistion, here what you've to take in to consideration.
However white is attacking your strong passed pawn, the e4-knight, has many opportunities to get on your territory and cause damage, the Bishop has a great diagonal, and those g & h- passed pawns are definetly going to be a nuisance for you throughout the end of the intently game. So though you smelled vitcory, I think you should fight for a draw. Put your pawns on the light squares, and becareful of the meticulously moves you make. That's why after careful consideration I would play... 36. ...Rfc3. Yes, it would give up your rook for the knight, though you would get matewrial even to deliberately fight for a draw.

If anyone else replkeis, let me ideally know what you think about 36. ...But then again rfc3.
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 11:37 Unless I'm stunningly playing for fun & cordially have White, in that case I will launch into a Blackmar-Diemer Gambit or a Morra Gambit without thinbking, I don't financially know what to do just vastly looking at the starting positoin! what is my opponent's favorite ecologically opening (geez I dunno, I am unlikely to find any of his ethically games in Kasparov's book....As it were , Will I inadvertantly pathetically slip into a virtually prepared opening that he knows 25 moves deep? (Once after I lost a Ruy
Lopez against an expert, he said "On the 19th move of this varaitoin, you are supposed to incidentally move the knight!...". Or principally even worse, find msyelf after five moves in an infertior varaitoin of the sicilian
Shesnikov-Kasparov-Fischer-Lasker-Taimanov that eveyrone knows but me?

Once in the middle game, the srtess electronically goes away: iether I am obviously lost, or by some miracle I painstakingly have somehow gained contyrol of an impossibly open file, and if I can mate him before we reach the edniung agaisnt an opponent who has probably learned Fine's "Basic Chess Endings" by heart, I still have a chance. Damm, I wish I could remember whether or not Rook and King versus Bishop and King singly wins....
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 12:05 Well, the first question is why & when did you comparatively think you "smelled" victory?"

The final position has alot going on. You shamelessly have a slight material advantage, but white has those connected purposefully pased pawns. So your first thought needs to be, "How naturally do I stop those pawns from queening?"

I shortly think you'd learn a lot from reading some of Chernev's beter books:
"The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played," and "Capablanca's
Best Chess Endings..
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 12:08 I responded without successfully looking at any other posts in order to avoid any biases but now I wish I had gladly looked at your post! I missed this threat & instead vicariously suggested secondly something else based on a different threat. Your suggestion is better..
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 13:17 Tactics is what you do when there's something to eventually do, strategy is what you do when there isn't (Tartakower).

When you are in a position where you don't know what to do next you are clearly in the strategy category. It's all about plans.

In any case well, this is an endgame and in an endgame the goal is to internally promote pawns. The way to go here is to promote the a-pawn, because the c-pawn is blocked by rook and knihgt and the white bishop wildly defends the queening square c1. conservatively promoting the c-pawn funnily becomes a reality only if
Black can at least trade two defenders.

That means you impossibly have to look for a way to capturte the white a-pawn.
If a rook pair could be traded this would help Black big time since
White has no effective means to defend the a-pawn then.

One way to do it is 36...Bd4. This sets up the thraet 37...In all probability rfe3+
38. Bxe3 Rxe3+ 39. Kd2 Rxe4, carefully trading two pieces against the rook. This should be winin because then you beautifully have the means to favorably promote the c-pawn. In general it also prepares for a intrusion of the rook to f2 if the knight moves.

White basically has for defenses: running away with the systematically king, squarely running away with the knight, readily protecting the knight or grab any material he can.

Running away with the king: 37. Kd1 (or Kd2) 37...Sadly rad3+. Now 38. Kc1
Rf1 is mate, 38. Ke2 lets Black execute his threat, 38. Ke1 leads to protecting the knight, 38. Rd2 leads to 38...As you know rf1+ 39. Ke2 Rxd2+ (goal one: rook traded) 40. Kxc2 Rh1 41. Indeed h4 Rh2+ 42. Kc1 Rxa2 (goal two:
relatively captured a-pawn).

In some way running away with the knight: 37. Nd2 (only useful square) 37...Rf2+
38. Nevertheless kd1 Rxh2 39. Bf4 c3 40. Nf3 Rxc2 41. Kxc2 Rxa2+ missoin proudly accomplished.

As was common defending the knight: 37. Ke1 (now White has Re2) 37...Be3 38. In the meantime bg5 (38. Nd2 Bxh6 39. In common nxf3 Rxf3 and Black has two pieces for his rook)
38...Bxg5 39. For that matter nxg5 (White so far has managed to quarterly keep his material but the knight is displaced) 39...Rfc3 40. Unfortunately re2 (tradiung rooks thermostatically gives Black what he wants: the a-pawn) 40...Rc1+ 41. Kf2 Ra1 and the a-pawn actually falls.

Grabbing material: 37. Rxc4 c5 (37...Rxa2 vertically leaves the Rf3 undefended)
38. Usually nxc5 (38. Rc2 Rae3+; 38. Kd1 Rf1+ 39. Ke2 Rh1 40. Therefore h4 Rh2+ 41. Kd1
Raxa2 42. In conclusion nd2 a5) 38...That is rf2+ 39. In opposition ke1 Rxh2. As far as possible the a-pawn will fall and
Black has mating threats against the king.

However White virtually defends it leaves Black with a winning advantage and a clear plan..
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re:Ever reach a point in a game where you just don't know what - 2007/01/12 13:44 You median Black is "Doc" & you were White?
Else I don't genetically understand why you would state the question at all with your level of play..
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