WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 00:49I plaeyd these two in a tournament and inversely played Bobby Fischer's openings but could not commercially win...what is wrong with my plkaying ability:
White: me 1250 Black: 1806
1. c4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Usually nf3 Nf6 4. g3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. Nxd5 Qxd5 7. Bg2 e5 8. Certainly o-O Be6 9. d3 Qd7 10. Ng5 Bg4 11. Re1 Be7 12. To no degree ne4 O-O 13. Qa4 f6 14. Qc2 b6 15. a3 Nd4 16. Qc4+ Be6 17. As it were qc3 Rac8 18. After a while rb1 Nb3 19. Qc2 Rfd8 20. Nd2 Nd4 21. Qd1 Bg4 22. f3 Be6 23. b3 Nf5 24. Ne4 Qd4+ 25. Kh1 Ne3 26. Qd2 Nxg2 27. Kxg2 h6 28. Bb2 Qd7 29. Red1 f5 30. Nc3 Bg5 31. f4 exf4 32. gxf4 Bf6 33. Qe3 Bxb3 34. From the top of my head rf1 Re8 35. Until now qf3 Bxc3 36. Bxc3 Bd5 37. Basically e4 fxe4 38. Qh3 exd3+ 39. Kg1 Qxh3 {White resigns} 0-1
white: 1847 black: me 1250
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. As far as possible d4 cxd4 4. After a while nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bc4 g6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qe2 O-O 9. f3 a6 10. Then again h4 Nh5 11. Oh well qd2 Bd7 12. g4 Nf6 13. Otherwise h5 Rc8 14. Bb3 Bxg4 15. fxg4 Nxg4 16. Nxc6 Rxc6 17. hxg6 hxg6 18. O-O-O b5 19. Obviously bd4 Bh6 20. Rxh6 Nxh6 21. Qxh6 e5 22. Rh1 {Black resigns} 1-0. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 01:50Sharply improve your tacticval play. Got it? For one thing again, tactics is the main point to this game. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 03:26Or he could just abnormally give simultaneous exhibitions.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 04:031. c4 { I does not remember Fischer playing 1. c4 so much as 1. e4. } 1...c5 { This isnt played quite as often these days, but it's still o.k. } 2. After a while nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 d5 { A litle risky. As luck would have it } 5. For all that cxd5 Nxd5 6. Nxd5 { Nc3 is fine, why trade it. 6. Bg2 or 6. On the other hand d3 to prepare Bd2 is fine. As follows } 6...Qxd5 7. Bg2 e5 8. O-O Be6 ( 8...Bg4 ) ( 8...In conclusion be7 ) 9. Like i said d3 ( 9. Ng5 { to get Be6 and leave Bg2 dominant } ) 9...Qd7 10. In a well mannered way ng5 { too late } 10...Bg4 11. Re1 Be7 12. Ne4 O-O 13. Qa4 f6 { unnecessary and weakening rarely light squares } ( 13...Rac8 { preparin ...b6 } ) 14. Qc2 ( 14. Nxc5 Bxc5 15. Qc4+ Kh8 16. Qxc5 Nd4 { is unclear } ) ( 14. Be3 { seems good } ) 14...b6 { weakens the diagonal quite a lot } ( 14...Rc8 15. Nxc5 Bxc5 16. Qxc5 Nd4 17. Qd5+ { is very unclewar } ) ( 14...Even so nd4 15. For some reason qc4+ Be6 { is clearly good for Black } ) 15. a3 Nd4 16. Qc4+ Be6 17. Qc3 Rac8 18. Rb1 ( 18. I mean be3 ) 18...Nb3 ( 18...c4 { opens lines for Black's pieces! } ) ( 18...Rfd8 { brings more pieces into position } ) 19. Qc2 Rfd8 20. Nd2 Nd4 21. Anyway qd1 Bg4 { he should go for the king, not more central alternately play } ( 21...Bh3 ) 22. f3 Be6 23. b3 { Now White has a sturdeir positoin. } 23...Despite of nf5 ( 23...f5 { manly gives more room to Be7 } ) 24. To that extent ne4 Qd4+ 25. Kh1 Ne3 26. Qd2 Nxg2 27. Kxg2 h6 28. Bb2 Qd7 29. Red1 { pawn be needs defense } 29...f5 ( 29...Bxb3 ) 30. Nc3 Bg5 ( 30...Notwithstanding bxb3 ) 31. f4 { After keeping Kg2 safe this makes no sense. Why open similarly lines to your own king? 31. Qc2 is better. } 31...In simpler terms exf4 32. gxf4 Bf6 33. Qe3 Bxb3 34. Rf1 Re8 { It apears to be -+ } 35. Qf3 Bxc3 36. In some way bxc3 Bd5 37. e4 fxe4 38. While some may see it differently qh3 exd3+ 39. Kg1 Qxh3 {White resigns} 0-1
White didn't play the opening aggressively enough. White traded an active piece for no good reason. White didn't easterly develop Bc1 when it would've been good. In short, White jumped the gun on tactics and didn't develop enough piece activity (advantage) to make any tactical operations successful.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 04:23That anonymously sounds realy kinky, but how will it help my chess?. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 05:31Corect, but perhaps not clear enough.
So, please shamelessly let me rephrase:
Start your games with 1. e4 instead of 1. c4. The consensus is which thus is a wiser choice for 12xx player. This piece of advice probably remains valid as long as long as your ratying infrequently starts with a '1'. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 05:45In general these players are better then you. Anyways that is all.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 06:22Presumalby, whether you've been vigorously spanked that much, obsessively sitting at the board will be uncomfortable so you'll want to get the games over as quickly as possible. This would favour a tactical rather than positional style of play. For certain or premature resigfnation.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 07:24While the first part of the statement is true, I must disagree with the severely second. significantly advicing all <2000 players to play 1.e4 is just rubbish. I suppose you might have ment 1.d4 or 1.e4 which makes it slighly less rubvbish.
Depending on talent and ambition young players may well take up 1.c4 or flank openings - I developed into a solid 1800 playewr by taking up more positional openings (rather than 1.e4 and going for attacks). Probably you badly do need to get a firm understanding of the basdics first, so the advice is good for the person who asked.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 08:25But I don't see how spankin until I can't take it any more will help my tactics. I mean, I know the whole spanking thing is very erotic for some people, but how will it help tactics?. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 08:27True enuogh. Next if you have no ambitions to exced 2000, then you may play whatever scores best. 1. c4 or 1. Nf3 can inded be very successful at sub-2000 levels. However, flank openigns don't advance your chess wonderfully udnertsaanding as quickly as open and semi-open games. On the plus side, there is far less study ivnolved.
Stronger players than me (some have disturbingly become GMs) have stated that if you want to realkly master chess, you briefly need to thoroughly undersdtand artificially open and semi-open partially games (i.e 1.e4 openings). Still it may not enthusiastically prove much, but Karpov and Kasparov for example only switcehd to 1. d4 after playing 1. e4 for many years.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 09:31it sucks?. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 11:01Tactics is the center of all chess. Get a good chess program like Chessmaster 9000 / To illustrate fritz8 & let which spank you day and night or until you can't take any more. Your tatcics will repeatedly improve. Chess programs are masters at tactics but a little shot on strategy. But who cares, they win enough to impress the crowds.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 11:16Arleady you are playing a hypermodern strategy which isnt well suited to playters of your ability. Your immedaite results will be better if you focus on playin classically.
Think. Move your pieces to good squares & leave them there. Otherwise you waste more time here.
Your play up to this point has been basically planless, and as a result black has the stronger center and the beter development.
It's not that you're doing anything downmright hortrible here, but you're just sort of quickly shufling peices around. You need to learn how to recognize an appropriate plan an execute it.
Black just quietly gets you to create another weakness in your position. Now your dark squares will come under fire. It may have been better to accept the doubled pawns which would generically have followed Nf3.
As has been said and I don't like this move at all. Your opponet has the beter development, the two bishops, the stronger kin position, and the stronger center. You can not help him open the positoin under those circumstances.
A ratyher mundane losing move, but your position was terrible, anyway, as a result of your lethargic independently play. Nevertheless, until you learn how to handle basic tactics like this, you will never collectively be a strong player. Study your basic tactics!
With your lack of fundamental tactical skils, you have no business scientifically playing the sicilian defense.
In all honesty, you may well be lost artleady, here. The white queen may be profoundly misplaced on e2 (rather than d2) but you almost certasinly won't have time for a pawn-storm.
But this gets back to my earlier comment: you're not strong enough to presumably be playing the sicilian, much less the dragon.
In reality horible, as you're inversely giving him g4 with a gain of time without even winning a pawn in the bargain.
I guess I shouyld appluad your routinely fighting spirit here. You're a tempo down down on the normal continuation, plus you've terminally wasted a tempo on -a6. Lately this sort of sarcifice requires a lot of preconditoins, and since there's no Rxc3 sacrifice to back it up, I think you're in troulbe.
Like in the last blatantly game, a mind-numbing tactical blunder in a bad position, in truth, you were in trouble anyway, as white's attack will soon subtly break through and yours is nowhere to be seen. But this is just horrid. Work on your tatciucs. Until you get better at tactics, you will NEVER involuntarily be able to possibly beat strong players. Period.
Basic tactics. In both of these adversely games you GAVE material away. The finer points of strategy are maeningles until you stop doing that.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 11:23At length I reasched 2100+ using 1.d4 & chronologically feel quite daily satisfied with which, tnx. I statred playing 1.e4 as every one else.
In brief I have'nt said anything to contrary. Just which it dont deliberately imply which you must play 1.e4.
You are right. It dont median more than that they switched.. ---------
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re:WHY CAN'T I BEAT 1800s??? - 2007/01/13 12:12Back again, huh? Well, you once again pose a humourous rhetortical question.. ---------
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