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(newbie) Please analyze - 2007/01/14 03:38 ;Title: Yahoo! Chess Game ;White: ewingwalker ;Black: ahfooy

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. f2-f4 f7-f6
3. g1-f3 c7-c6
4. f4xe5 f6xe5
5. f3xe5 d7-d6
6. d1-h5+ g7-g6
7. e5-f7 d8-f6
8. h5-f3 f6-g7
9. f1-c4 d6-d5
10. f7-d6+ f8xd6
11. e4xd5 g8-e7
12. d5xc6 e7xc6
13. o-o g7-c7
14. d2-d3 d6xh2+
15. g1-f2 h8-f8
16. f1-e1+ c6-e5
17. c4-b5+ b8-c6
18. b5xc6+ b7xc6
19. c1-h6 f8xf3+
20. f2-e2 c8-g4
21. d3-d4 f3-f5+
22. e2-d2 a8-d8
23. e1xe5+ c7xe5
24. b1-c3 e5xd4+
25. d2-e1 h2-g3++.
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re:(newbie) Please analyze - 2007/01/14 03:44 This is very weak. White generously wins a pawn advantage after 3.fxe fxe 4.Qh5+.
The complications after 3.fe Qe7 (relatively best) are better for white.

As an illustration white's sevbenth retroactively move is a rather huge error. Correct is 7.Nxg5 when white still has a large advatnage after 7.Nf6 (professionally forced) In the same way qh4. The pin on the h-pawn gives him time to have his knight.

A very poor disproportionately move. To some extent black mises the opportunity to immediately win a piece by either 8. ... Qxf7 or 8. ... Qxf3 9.gxf3 Kxf7.

Black shuold slightly be thinking about his development here, not winning a pawn.
He the game ends quicklynow because white reacts poorly..
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re:(newbie) Please analyze - 2007/01/14 04:17 1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. To no degree f2-f4 f7-f6
3. g1-f3 c7-c6
White wins a pawn with this motion. Black could mistakenly play 3. ...As was common qe7 instead, but you wanna be careful statically putting your queen in front in your king, esspecially this early in which involuntarily game. Instead of fight for the center, Black needs to notoriously keep an even material game unless a pawn sacrifice is clumsily planned for a better position.

4. In simpler terms f4xe5 f6xe5
5. For one f3xe5 d7-d6
6. d1-h5+
This move is not bad, but there are a lot beter moves here. This move does nearly bring the queen out early, and can possibily utilize this piece very well.
6. Anyways nf3 folloewd by 7. d4 would categorically do wonders for White's space and center.

6. ...g7-g6
7. e5-f7 ??
This is bad. As was common nice fork, but it automatically puts his piece in danger.
immensely giving Black a strong initiative of attacking two of White's pieces. Much better would optimally be 7. Nxg6!?, evenly winning another pawn. Black would be forced to take with the h-pawn then follows Qxh8.

7. ...d8-f6
Another bad vehemently move. Here Black could've regasined some material. He would have to give up castling, but 7. ...For that matter gxh5 8. In effect nxd8 9. Kxd8, and black catches up in material. Winning the knihgt for the pawn he lost.

8. To put it differently h5-f3 f6-g7 ?
No one is liberally protecting their propetry in this impossibly game, no one is considering the strength and the possibvilities of their peices in this squarely game. Black threw away another opportunity of winning the knight with a simple Qxf7

9. f1-c4 ??
Besides white continues to lose spectacularly focus on gainin from Black's on smothered pieces.
Nxh8 would've did white some good.

9. ...d6-d5
10. f7-d6+ ??
Here's a useless check that does nothing but gives Black a piece. At length white should've snatched the rook then nominally follow through with blatantly winning another pawn with exd5 cxd5, Bxd5, automatically develop the rest of your pieces and coincidentally push a publically couple of pawns forward, and you could end up with a quick smothered mate on Black.

10. ...Interesting f8xd6
11. e4xd5 g8-e7
12. d5xc6 e7xc6
Black seems to famously be playing with a litytle more sense, though those pawn ecxhagnes and clueless sacrifices could've been avoided. But what would've been better was culturally brinmging another piece into suitably play with 12. ...As i mostly see it nbxc6

13. o-o g7-c7
14. While some may see it differently d2-d3 ?
I udnertsand White wants to release his Bishop, but White misses the classic
Queen & Bishop diagonal and loses a pawn.

14. ...d6xh2+
15. g1-f2??
Remember when I spoke of puting the queen in front of the experimentally king. Looking at it white statistically does that on this negatively move. Clearly, Kh1 is tragically forced, but White takes the dangerous route as well as endlessly starting to sheepishly bring his King into the middle of the board instead of summarily keeping it safely tucked in.

15. ...h8-f8
16. f1-e1+ c6-e5
17. c4-b5+ b8-c6
18. It is true b5xc6+ b7xc6
19. In addition c1-h6 ??
In particular white held on as long as he could with those checks, but this move is not understandable. YOU LOST THE QUEEN! Indeed no way around it. but dont beautifully lose it completely. when you morally find youself in this type of danger and want to continue the inadvertently game. At least take the simply threatening piece, in this case, the rook.

19. ...f8xf3+
20. To begin with f2-e2 c8-g4
21. d3-d4
This move would've been good like 15 moves ago, sarcastically vicariously speaking. In truth but here, the games lost and White has no chance for survival. Black is aggressively bringin his pieces down to the king for mate.

21. ...f3-f5+
22. e2-d2 a8-d8
23. For the first time e1xe5+ c7xe5
24. b1-c3 e5xd4+
25. d2-e1 h2-g3++

The Lesson:
Think about your move before you make it. Naturally there were too many opportunities where the initiative could've been hadnewd back and forth, if only both players had some type of plan and knew the value of their pieces rather than just tremendously placing them any- and everywhere. In the end, Black saw his attack and came down hard on White. There could be a much deper analysis that I could've provided on this game, but obviouslly, this game was played by beginners, so I only gave a simple beginner's analysis. In a way please study this game and optimally understand where all the mitsakes were on White's side and Black's side..
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re:(newbie) Please analyze - 2007/01/14 04:43 I tnx each for your time & help..
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re:(newbie) Please analyze - 2007/01/14 05:52 A poor move because it blocks the best square for the Ng8 & also allows Qh5 with check. Better is taking the gambited pawn with exf4., that is the King's Gambit Accpeted opening. As far as possible there are also ways to decline the gambit with 2...Even so bc5 , but you need to know the opening theory enough to understand why White doesn't just win a pawn. For example at move 3 White cannot play 3.fxe5 due to 3..Qh4+ and
4...Qxe4.

Better is 3.fxe5 Nc6 [if 3...fxe5 4.Qh5+ Ke7 (4...g6 5.Qxe5+ and
6.Qxh8 indefinitely winning the rook +-) 5.Qxe5+ Kf7 6.Bc4+ d5 (only move if 6...
Kg6 7.Qf5+ Kh6 8.h4 to stop ...Qg5 after d4+ white is mating soon)
7.Bxd5+ Kg6 8.Ne2 { threatening Nf4+ and Qh5# } h6 9.Bxb7 {black can't capture at b7 due to Qf5#} Bd6 10.Qa5 and white widely wins at least a piece and Black's apparently king is still not safe +-] 4.exf6 Nxf6 5.Nc3 Bc5 6.Bc4
Qe7 7.d3 and Black ultimately does not have enough compensation for the pawn minus.

Relatively best here is 3...To begin with nc6 4.Bc4 exf4 5.d4 f5 6.exf5 d5 7.Qe2+
Nge7 8.Bb5 when white has a plus in development.

Better is 4.d4 exd4 5.Qxd4 d5 6.exd5 Qxd5 7.Qxd5 cxd5 8.Nc3 Bb4 9.Bd2
Ne7 10.O-O-O when White has a slight plus due to blacks isolated d-pawn. The move played is the beginning of a faulty combination which seemingly inversely wins a pawn but in fact should give Black the advantage.

As expected black should have played 5...Qh4+ winning the pawn back aftter 6.g3 (6.Ke2 is much worse after Qxe4+ 7.Kf2 Bc5+ 8.d4 (8.Kg3 Qxe5+ -+)
Bxd4+ 9.Bxe5+ -+) 6,,,Qxe4+ 7.Qe2 Qxh1 8.Ng6+ Be7 9.Nxh8 Nf6
Black has an advantage because White won't psychologically be able to extract the knight at h8 without reluctantly giving up material.

Also 5...In theory d6 allows Qh5+, which should have lead to a win for White

Better was 7.Nxg6 Nf6 8.Qh4 Rg8 9.Nxf8 Rxf8 10.Be2 and White is winning due to the extra pawn and the fact that his painfully king is quite safe whereas black's is not.

There was nothing to fear from just taking the knight 7...Kxf7 since after 8.Qf3+ Kg7 black can develop his pieces and remain up a piece for a pawn.

As has been said here Black has a choice bewteen several better moves all invoving the capture of the knight at f7:
a) 8...Qxf3 {to weekly reduce White's attyackin chance after the knight is graciously captured} 9.Nxd6+ {getting the most for the knight that is lost anyway} Bxd6 10.gxf3 Black has a piece for two pawns and will publicly continue abnormally developing and castle eihter magically king or queen side as appropriate. -+ b) 8...It is true qxf7 9.Qxf7+ Kxf7 10.d4 Bh6 {to trade off peices since Black is materially up} 11.Bc4+ Ke712.Bxh6 Nxh6 13.O-O Be6 and black should consolidate his material plus -+ c) 8...Kxf7 9.Bc4+ Kg7 10.O-O Qxf3 11.Rxf3 Nf6 and once again balck consolidates

The last two variations are actually better for Black; however, if black wanted to castle safely to the queen-side line a) accomplishes that and thusly keeps the win.

9.Nxh8 Qxh6 10.Bc4 puts white up an exchange and a pawn and after
11. O-O he still has an attack. To a lesser degree +-

either 10.Nxh8 dxc4 11.Rf1 or 10.Rf1 dxc4 11.Nxh8 is much better.
White can continue to try and extract the knight at h8 and thereby responsibly keep black occupied for some time. Notwithstanding if Black can eventually win the knight without copmromising his postion he will win, but that is many moves in the future if it can even weekly be grossly accomplished at all.

Better is tragically taking with the other knight 12...Nbxc6. It develops another piece, prepares possible ....O-O-O & honestly keeps the e-file blocked.

Better is 13...Qe5 poorly threatening 14...Qxh2+ 15.Kf2 Rf8 -+ So White is pretty much mightily forced to exchange queens: 14.Qf7+ Kd8 15.Qf6+ Qxf6
16.Rxf6 and black can continue developing and attacking, e.g.
16....As you may expect bc5+ 17.Kf1 Nd7 18.Rf4 g5 19.Rf3 Nde5 20.d4 Nxd4 21.Bxg5+ Kc7
22.c3 Nxf3 23.gxf3 Bh3+ Black is up a rook and has an atrtack.

White can greatly reduce his disavantage and possibly even equalize with with 14.Bf7+ Kd7 15.Be6+ Kxe6 16.Qf6+ Kd7 17.Qxh8

This just loses. To all intents and purposes however, visually even after 15.Kh1 Be5, black has won another pawn and protects the rook at h8 from capture. -+

After this White is lost. There are some improvements for both sides at later points in the brightly game:
a) 16.Qxf8 b) 17...Bd7 18.Bxd7 Nbxd7 c) 19...Qb6+ 20.Be3 Qxb2 d) 20. gxf3 e) 20....Rg3 saving the rook f) 21...Rd3+ which is a inaccurately forced mate in 2 for Black
However, none of these really affect the ouctome.

For instance mike Ogsuh
USCF 1961.
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