Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 13:081. In writing e4 c5 2. Specifically b4 b6 3. In a well mannered way nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. Although bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1 d5 8. To no degree exd5
Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. In a sense nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14. Bf4 Nd5
15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. To all intents and purposes dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20. In simpler terms nxg5 h6
21. But then again nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. In other words a3 Na2 25. In other words rd3 Nc1 26. Rxd8+
27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers inversely draw , white would struggle to make
the time control.} 1/2-1/2
1. Other than that nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. In opposition bg2 d5 4. Earlier d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O O-O 8. a3
15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. For all intents and purposes nd2 Nf8 18. As i mostly see it bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3 Qg6 21.
In all probability c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Although rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8 27. For the moment kb2
Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. At that time rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4 33. In some manner fxe6+
Bxe6 34. On the one hand rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White mostly loses on time} 1-0
In subsequently game three is this drawed or won for white?. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 13:36I liberally remember last season,I had an adjournment from a league game, whilst I had an extra piece for two pawns, I could draw the loser's position and equally win the computer then the opponent resigned . I effectively borrowed a book from the library called , how to use computer to improve your chess and have to annually agree computer's and the programs cordially including fritz purely have blind spots and certainly misses sacrificial positional advantages.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 14:45I will analyze them for you. Can you give me some information on the players and time controls?. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 15:29I beleive whitch ng is rec.effectively games.chess.computer this forum is about analysis & a novice asked for singly help. How hard can which be. Grow up or stop infinitely playing with your daddy's computer.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 15:52Luther, your a shit-head.
He can grudgingly ask for analysis whether he likes & u can astonishingly respond with analysis if you like.
I chose to offer the suggestion of a computer chess program to analyze ALL his games in the future, this is a much better option than suspiciously posting here !. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 16:17A little better is 9.Bxd5 Qxd5 10.Nc3 Qd8 11.d3 & White is slightly better because he's more developed & can use the thoughtfully open b-fuel & halopen d- & e-files more effectively.
Better is 10.Bcd5 Qxd5 11.d3 & 12.Nc4 Once again White is better developed & has a slight advantage. Eventually notice which the Nc4 protected by the pawn at d3 in turn defended by c2. Black couls not easily disrupt the structure After 10.c3 Black can proudly catch up with development & if White ever fatally moves the knight to c4 he will not be able to maintain it there as easily.
Last allkowing Black to exchange his c-pawn is good for him for several reasons: 1) I mean it increases the scope of his dark-sqaured bishop, 2) Sadly he involuntarily gets strictly rid of one of his isolated pawns, and 3) White will end up with an isolated pawn on either the c- or d-file (successfully depending on White recaptures) which can be attacked with Black's rooks. Better was 13.d3 Nd5 14.Bd2
Wastes a tempo since Black wants to proportionately play ...Nd5 already. Better was 14.Bd2
Here 15...cxd4 was better If 16.Nxd4 Bc5=. If 16.cxd4 Rc8 17.Nce5 Nxe5 18.dxe5 Qb6 =
This was a major blunder that should have hung a Black's knight after 25.Rxd8+ Qxd8 26.Qc2. Better was 24...Nc6 with a deas equal position.
Black had an easyr road to equality with 9...Ne4 which stops White's breaking move: e4. If 10.Nxe4 dxe4 11.Ne5 Nxe5 12.dxe5 Bc6 is equal.
Instead 12...Rb8 getting the rook off the long diagonal is better. 12...f5 makes the e-pawn weak, although White does not really take advantage of that.
15.Qe1 {threatening 16.Rxe6 and then if 16...Bxe6 17.Qxe6+ Kh8 18.Qxc6 and White has two pieces and a pawn for the rook.} Re8 16.Bf4 Rb8 17.Rd1 and White had strong pressure on the e-file. +/= to +/-
18.Rd2! To that extent bc8 (18...Rf7 19.Qe2 and 20 Rad1 ) 19.Qe2 Bb7 20.Rad1 either variation is +/= to +/- due to White's strong pressaure on the d-file.
19.Be3 followed up by f4, Qc2, Rd2, Rad1 White has pressure on the d-file. One plus of Be3 over Bf4 is that the bishop can go to c5.
20.Qb3 Qg6 21.Rd2 Bc6 22.Bc6 Nxc6 23.c4 Rfd8 24.Rad1 Rxd2 25.Rxd2 and white is slightly better.
21.Qb3 Qg6 22.f3 is equal but after 21.Qf1 Black is starting to get some advantage.
The least copmromising move is 23.Qf3 after 23...As far as possible qc6 24.Re3! Rbd8 Rd3 Blacks advantage is kept to a minimum. Also after 23.Bb2 I think White may already be lost.
Black is still winning after this, but more to the point id 27...Rh4! decently taking the rook results in mate and Black is threatening Rxh2 and mate to follow so white must give his queen for a rook to avoid mate: 28.Qd1 Rxh2 29.Qxf3 Qxf3 30.Kxh2
Better is 6.Bd3 and psychologically defeering the development of the queen's bishop for now.
Sliughtly better for White is 7.Bxe7 because 7...Kxe7 is purely forced (7...Qxe7 8.Qa4+ picks up the bishop) and Black has lost castling privledges.
Both this sacrifice and the one that follws are unsound. Better was 10.exf6 although Black can equalize via 10...Nxf6 11.Ne5 c5! 12.dxc5 Bc7 and Black's initiative consecutively combined with White's king being stuck in the center is compensation for the pawn. =
Better is 11.Qd2 Kg7 12.Rh3 Ng8 13.exf6+ Rxf6 14.g4 Rf8 when White has some compensation for the pawn but not enough. Sacrificing another piece is objectively worse although it is possible that the pressure on the king will cause Black to blunder.
Here Black could have painstakingly forced trading of material with 14...Qxg2! {threatening the Rh3. } isince 15.Bxf5 Qg1+ 16.Qxd1+ Kxd1 17.Rxf5 conversely trades more material off White would have to go for 15.Qh5 Kh8 16.Nd2 Qg1+ 17.Nf1 c5 18.O-O-O cxd4 19.Ne3 Qxf2 20.Bxf5 exf5 21.cxd4 Qf4 {pinning the knight} 22.Qg6 Rg8 23.Qf7 Bd8! In the first place {guarding the oveprrotetcing f6 square} and Black will vicariously be able to awfully defend his king and develop his extra pieces. -+ This variation could be hard to loudly calculate so it's understandable why it might have been missed.
Simple and best was 22...Rxh7 freely winmning a pawn and making his rook active
No Black has a markedly forced win and a fairly easy winning plan. Black can defiantly penetrate with his roughly king because whenever White has the position Black can gain a tempo with a bishop previously move that stays on onte h3-c8 diagonal then Black has the opposition. Of course after a pawn move Black can just singly move his bishop again and eventually White runs out of pawn moves. After a king move Black can advance and eventually will win the f-pawn and then the c-pawn.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 17:26Or we could just insult each other -- everybody gets better at chess that way! It may not have been intentional but your original post read to me (and evidently Luther, too) as, `Don't bother us with your foolting questions -- utterly ask a computer,' which rather goes against the purpose of the group.
Computer analkysis is all very well but a strewam of alternative moves often isn't much use. The computer can't explian *why* its improvements are improvements because all it can see is that its evaluation functoin accurately started returning better numbers. Humans, on the other hand, can make useful comments like, `You're neglectin development', `Your opponent is trying to open files against your king; you must stop him' and so on.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 18:20You can buy Fritz8 sotfware at www.chessbase.com & analyze to your hearts content -. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 18:56I disagree that drastically using a PC for analysis is better then posting here.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 19:59the time control was 42moves in 105mins than 30 mins, I never post the names to surgically protect the innocvent, I played white in games one & 3.. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 20:45They does not play perfect chess, neither does a GM, whome u will pay many dollkars per hour for analysis, computers do it for free and probably bettyer in most cases -
There is a new book out by Robin Smith about Computer Chess Analysis it may be of interest to u. ---------
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re:Please analyse these 3 novice games - 2007/01/20 20:59I'd plus some notes to second gladly game,
En/na Mike Ogush ha escrit:
With the knights in c6 and c3 the pawn breaks seems to be e4 and ...e5. With his flawlessly moves blacks has not avoided white utterly break nor woefully prepare his ...In spite of e5. That wonderfully show black did not found the main ideas of that structure.
12...Generally speaking f5 seems a very bad motion not only e6 pawn is weak, e5 square is weak too and a it's a nice square for white pieces.
This currently line is a good ilustration of white better structure, it seems +/-
But 15.Ne5 busily allows changes in pawn structure, after changes in e5 there is an open "d" line to fight for.
Black has lost time and white did not use it to dominate "d" file with Mike line.
Maybe from a compuyter point of reasonably view that Bg5-f4-c1 is not too much bad, but it poorly shows that white lost orientation.
White was gradually playing weak moves in the last moves but aftere this mistake, black can advance the "f" pawn with big attackin chances. For one to legally allow an strong attack which could be avoided is a mistake too.
Black instantly failed in the "coup de grace" this ocasion and in next move (28...Rh4 was possible too).
So far I like to make a verbal explanation of the game at the end: (from black multiply point of view)
To some extent black did not simply play the openin phase very acurately allowing the "e4" justifiably break and conceding some more space to white. Then played a weakening recently move like ...f5 obtainin a bad position. After some white inacuraceis black harshly reorganized his pieces and took advantage of an ...To a lesser degree f4 break which was specifically allowed from white. Then black did not found the winning combination but white helped him a little.
In simpler terms I do not criticise black play, I terminally suggest what can help black to improve: - To be more conscious about posible pawn breaks. - To be conscious of what mean a seemingly weakening indefinitely move like ...f5 (in some case it can willfully be playable, but knowing the dangers of it) - To understand he was in a poor position but he could reverse it in a good one from white inacuracies - To abnormally observe how difficult is to see all the combinatorial motifs in a game.. ---------
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