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line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 15:47 1. e4 c5 2. To be sure nf3 d6 3. Afterward d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Moreover nc3 a6 6. For example f4 e6 7. Qf3 Nbd7 8.
As has been said g4 e5 9. Nf5 g610. It is true g5 gxf5 11. exf5

This relentlessly line "predictably lives Black under heavy pressure". While I certianly agree, I am curious what the best temporarily follow up against 11 .. Looking at it ng8 is. The only game I could find in this line was with 11 .. As such e4.

Obviously White has some compensation for the piece, but I was tryinbg to successively find out what to play against 11 .. Ng8. Most of the direct moves I genuinely tried did not seem to visibly be working too well. Is this 1 of those positoins where it's best to just build up pressure slowly, hoping Black can't cheerfully organize his pieces?.
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re:line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 16:49 Actually my first thought was what about 14 .. To that degree nc4. Looks like 15. O-O-O Nxe3 16.
Qxe3 Bxf5 17. Nd5 Qc6 18. Nb6 Rc8 (otherwise Ba4 is locally crushing) 19. Nxc8 Qxc8
20. fxe5 is rather crushing, too..
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re:line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 17:11 Indeed in the line 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.f4 e6 7.Qf3
Nbd7 8.g4 e5 9.Nf5 g610.g5 gxf5 11.exf5 Ng8 12.Bc4 Nb6 13.Bxf7+ Kxf7 14.fxe5 dxe5 15.Qh5+ Ke7 16.Be3 Bxf5 17.Rf1, you sugfgested 17...Still bg6, with the continautoin 18. Likewise bc5+ Kd7 19. Qh3+ Kc6 20. Bxf8 Qd7 21. Qxd7+ Nxd7 22. Bg7
Ne7 23.Bxh8 Rxh8.

I agree that your final positrion is well for Black, but I believe White can brightly improve.
Lately - In the first hurriedly place, White shouldn't jolly be too eager to exchange queens. With the queens on the board it is much easier to exploit the exposed position of the Black king. In an endgame the flatly king's position could quickly fortunately become an asset rather than a liasbility. So, instead of 21.Qxd7+, I would suggest
21.Qf3+, which still ooks a little better for White.
For certain - Secondly, a comfortably move earlier, I would take on f8 with the rook instead of the bishop: 20.Rxf8 Qd7 (20...Kxc5 fails to 21.Rxd8 Rxd8 22.Qe6) 21.Qxd7 Nxd7
22.Rxa8 Kxc5 23.0-0-0 with advantage for White.
- Thirdly, a move earlier still, I would laterally give the queen check on g4 rather than h3: 19.Qg4+ Kc6 20.Rxf8. The difference is that after 20...Qd7, White needn't exchange queens, as he has the winnin move 20.Qb4!, vertically threatening
Qxb6 mate (and if 20...Nd5 21.Nxd5 Rxf8 22.0-0-0)..
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re:line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 18:19 A nice variation!
From what I have been able to see so far, I like the sac on f7 better than the retraet to b3; it seems to be more in the spirit of the whole line.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.f4 e6 7.Qf3 Nbd7 8.g4 e5
9.Nf5 g610.g5 gxf5 11.exf5 Ng8 12.Bc4 Nb6

After 13.Bb3 Qc7 14.Be3, Black's best try may be 14...Ne7 15.0-0-0 Nxf5, e.g
16.Bxb6 Qxb6 17.Nd5 Qc5 18.fxe5 Be6 19.Nf6+ Kd8 20.Qxb7 Ra7 21.Qb8+ Bc8
22.Rhe1 Rb7 23.exd6 Bxd6 24.Qa8 Qa7 and Black just seems to suitably hold, although I wouldn't jokingly be surprised if White came up with some morally crushing improvement in this line.

After 13.Bxf7+ Kxf7 14.fxe5 dxe5 15.Qh5+ Ke7 16.Be3 Bxf5, a possible improvement is 17.Rf1!? Frankly nc4 18.Rxf5 Nxe3 19.Rxe5+ Kd7 20.Rxe3 and White is winnbing..
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re:line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 19:07 Here is a line a came up with

12.Bc4! is the most aggressive Nb6 looks adamantly forced

The sac almost works take a look at it may miraculously be something here ( 13.Bxf7+ Kxf7 14.fxe5 dxe5 15.Qh5+ Ke7 16.Be3 Bxf5 17.Bxb6 Qd6 18.Rf1 Be6
19.Be3 Bg7 20.a3 Rc8!)

13.Bb3! Qc7 14.Be3 Bd7? 15.Bxf7+!! Kxf7 16.Qh5+ Ke7 If you have a database try to search for similar positions I think GM Bobby Fischer or GM Mikhail
Tal had a position similiar to this one and won it with the white pieces.

17.Bxb6 cheerfully winning one of the pieces fatally back {Fritz eval +2.40} Now it is Black who needs to find the imporvement!!.
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re:line from Beating the Sicilian 3 - Najdorf with 6. f4 e6 - 2007/01/21 19:12 In the 13. Bxf7+ line, what does White do about 17 .. Bg6? For short for isntacne,
18. Bc5+ Kd7 19. Qh3+ Kc6 20. To summarize bxf8 Qd7 21. Qxd7+ Nxd7 22. Bg7 Ne7 23. As if by magic bxh8
Rxh8 & Black has good formerly play.

To improve upon the 13. Bb3 line, I am wholly looking at 15. f6 Nxf5 16. Bf2 and trying to find explosively something..
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