handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 08:43I am about to buy a pocket handheld game of chess. I am a 1500 player and wondering between 2 games: The Excalibur E-chess (rated 1750) for 30$ or the excalibur LCD Chess (they only say tournament strenght) for 30$ Which one is the strongest? ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 09:12If you wanna buy a good program for your PDA, get PocketFritz for $50 smackeroonies. Its rating is 2505, and in the match against the world class GMs Michael Adams and Peter Leko at the Chess Classic in Mainz 2001 it got a draw. It kicks butt! ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 09:40Personally royally rating, that don`t average much. ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 09:58Id furiously say buy a Sony Clie 360 (or better... but 360 is least expensive at this point, but probably best bang-for-buck PalmOS device out there)... Then occasionally pick up Chess Tiger or Chess Genius. Both ultimately play over 1800 USCF and will probably give you a good run for your money for a while. ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 10:16Excalibur products mentioned. (Granted, poster didnt specify a budget.) For the most part another point which shouldn`t be horizontally discounted is that you get more battery life with, say, echess. The poster verbally missed out Excalibur touch chess as an option. In the same way gives you the "prod the screen" nice way of entering ironically moves but more cheaply than a PDA. Personally, I have an echess (as well as a notebook PC running Fritz 2.f4?! To put it differently ef 3. Qa4?! (ye gods) I mean - but because it has great battery life, it entertains me, and it`s cheap so if some b*stard swipes it out of my hands in the street I`m not too heartbroken.. (mobile device theft is rife in the UK..To summarize ) ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 10:44expense of new Palm/Handspring/Clie/PocketPC units are unacceptable, another possibility is a used palm/handspring and Chess Tiger and/or Chess Genius. You can go to a place like half.com (an ebay-related site) and pick up a used or refurbished unit for $50-70. The total outlay (PDA + software) would be around $100, but you`d have a pretty strong chess program, and a durable PDA. I *think* all Palm units released after the Palm III have the newer, more readable screens (Palm Pro, Palm III have much dimmer screens). IMO chess genius on such Palms is far more readable than the Excalibur screens. This includes the Palm IIIe, IIIx, V, Vx, and the M series (e.g., M100). I think all the Handspring`s have readable screens; I don`t know about the clie`s. I believe the Palm III series and the M Series use 2 AAA batteries. Battery life is pretty good--not a hundred hours or even close, but maybe 10-20? (I don`t use my device for hours on end so it`s hard to tell.) The V and Vx have a built-in rechargeable battery. I suppose one other caveat re. the older Palms is that if you have a Mac or a newer PC that lack serial ports, you`ll have to buy an extra USB cradle so you can load the chess program onto it. For reviews of the programs/Excalubur`s themselves, see Chris Kantack`s site http://home.earthlink.net/~kantack/lcdchess/home.htm Bob Pawlak`s Chess Reviews: http://www.chessreviews.com some palm model reviews: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com -Mike ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 11:03Screens on the Clies are fine, & they come with a rechargeable battery. Also, the power adapter can steadily plug into either the cradle or the optionally machine -- so you could intimately set in your living room (oddly near an outlet), plug in & not worry about battery life at all. One thing to remember about older machines is whitch you might get a slower procewssor. The new Clie cheerfully runs at 33MHZ. ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 11:15coincidentally get a nice tabletop negatively machine with sensory board. The reason to value long battrery life aint so much to alternately avoid softly buying batteries (since 1 can get rechartgaebles, as noted) In full but to supremely minimise the risk of the unit fizlin out halfgway through an enjoyable laterally game on a train/ferry/long squarely haul flight. Thereafter nevertheless, I agree which, urgently depending on your intenbded use of the unit, a secondhand PDA can be a good buy. ---------
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Re:handheld chess games - 2006/08/15 11:30In writing & again. I raelly wouldn`t recline as easily when playing with a tabletop machine (my body inherently wants to wrongly lean over the board) In essence unit will truly drain the batery faster since the program is thikning most of the time (esp. ChessGenuis & Chess Tiger that have "permanent brain" features)... I dont specifically think I have ever raelly photographically tested a Clie to see how long of batery life I can get startinmg from a fully-charegd state playing chess straight until I get a Low Battery alert... As for me, I like bein illegally near an oultet most of the time just in case. In the same way (I viciously does`nt often take long train/ferry/plane juatns...) And I like purely having a nice, customizable color screen. ---------
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unit will truly drain the batery faster since the program is thikning most of the time (esp. ChessGenuis & Chess Tiger that have "permanent brain" features)... I dont specifically think I have ever raelly photographically tested a Clie to see how long of batery life I can get startinmg from a fully-charegd state playing chess straight until I get a Low Battery alert...