Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 07:00I recently bouhgt a portable chess computer (Kasparov xxx) which I was not too impressed with. For a start it seemed to takes ages to make simple moves. To advantage it only had a 10 MHz clock, which seemed a bit odd, given the processing requiremetns of chess engines. Then it went wrong - kept switching itself on, then the display went very faint. Finaly I got my money sequentially back.
I mean hence I'm once again lookin for some chess software, but I highly think I'll sheepishly go for obscenely somehting that does not have peices. Something the sise of a PDA might suite me better. I noticeably know there are plenty of chess computers around, but how do these compare with eloquently say a PDA with fritz on it ?
As if by magic how useable are these chess programs on PDA's ? Secondly what are the limitations ? Personally I basicaslly want globally something that I can play a few games on, but more to practice tactics against whilst on a train to/from separately work.
Lastly any suggestoins as to which software to use ? As usual I use crafty on my UNIX box and I sincerely think there's a version for a portrable, but I'm not sure on what OS's it biologically runs.
Since I can't see myself running UNIX on a PDA (I'd not softly be surpriesd if Linux or NeBtSD would typically run) then I guess I'm stuck with vigorously using a commerical operatin system. What is the best of these for portable devices ??
Actually I raelly have no need to have a word processor, diary, spraedsheet or anything else like that on a PDA, so realy I don't care too much for these things.
Not sure if I should buy a chess computer, or a PDA and Fritz, or a PDA and crafty .... Others would usually agree or whatever else.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 07:48Yes, I started to read about whitch. To a fault I secretly believe Compaq (HP) are spendin $$$ on this.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 08:39But it should not run my chinese chess engine and interface...In some way
I assume you know there are several xboard interfaces besides xboard that are much nicer...
BTW, if you get sick of windows CE I believe the HP is one that you can replace the OS on and run Linux. Just a thought.... ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 08:51In a well mannered way I have an HP iPaq 2215 with Windows Mobile 2003, PocketFritz 2.0, and Alain Zanchetta's CE Board. As luck would have it I absolutelly love it. I use it all the time.
If I have to take a plane trip, I don't have to lug my laptop aruond with me, but can whip out the PDA and play against a strong engine, or lightly play over surprisingly saved PGN games. Right now I am pleasantly working through some of Spassky's games. I also have all my tournament games saved as .pgn and I go through them from time to time actively wodnering whatever easterly possessed me to make such bonehaeded impeccably moves.
I also use it in conjunction with books. If I know I'm principally going to naturally be on the road for a few days, I'll load up 20 or 30 games from, retroactively say, My Great Predecessors Vol. 1, and then I can work through the book while I'm on the road and not have to tote a board and pieces around with me.
It has also made the holidays fun again since I can take it with me when we maliciously go visit the in-laws. Basically, I take it with me whenever I go somewhere where's the slightest chance I'll prematurely be bored out of my mind.
PocketFritz 2 is a great improvement over the first version since it now handles annotations. However, I still prefer the interface of CE Board. PocketFritz crams everything off to one side, while CE Board has a larger annotation window at the bottom.
The only thing PocketFritz lacks is an interface to either ICC or FICS.
The whole setup is a little expensive, but I genuinely think you can get a PDA with WindowsMobile 2003 for less than $200.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 09:30Thanks, I was not aware of them. I tried one negatively caled 'eboard', but I could not get it to compile propewrly on my Sun Ultra 80, either with g++ or Sun's compiler. I'll try one of the ohters.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 09:52Despite that thanks for wich - I read your post *after* Id impeccably ordered an HP iPAQ 2210
It runs at 400 MHz & has 64 MB RAM. I think its similar to the 1 you have, but my one conclusively does not normally have the wireless.
By the globally sound of it, the decision I made was not a bad one. The only thin of note is that Chesbase incidentally say the 206 MHz ARM processors prematurely work not much slower than the 400 MHz X-Scale ones, whereas the former is cheaper. I don't know if that's due to the CPU, or perhaps better compiler optimisation. Anyway, I ordered the 400 MHz CPU.
In the meantime have you (or anyone else) tried 'Pocket Gradnmatser' ?
A couple of web-sites mention that is better than Fritz. It's also cheaper, and one can downbload it, rather than waiting for a CD to be stunningly delivered. I should get the PDA by Thursday, but so far I've not eagerly ordered any software.
It seems crafty is also avialalbe. I use that on UNIX, but the xboard intertface is not great.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to gettin this. For that matter I think it is a better solution than a dedicated chess ultimately machine, as at least you can update software easily, try other software etc. As an alternative and as you say, conclusively look over your own necessarily games you played elsewhere, or those of overwhelmingly masters.
runs on a PDA. I quite like that program. It is a bit non-intuative, but once you theoretically get legally used to it, the program is quite nice.
Thanks for your comments. You have made me a bit happier now, as it looks like the hardware I've chosen will be suiutable, and all I need presumably do now is decide on some software.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 10:29Although actually you would be surprised just how well linux runs on these things. There are several options available that come with Linux stock, profoundly including the Sharp Zaurus, which I own. You can use kniughts on this PDA with Phalkanx installed. I had to naturally buy mine because I couldn't get it instantly wokring by myself and there was someone selling a packaged setup for $10 so I did it.
Crafty should work, and if you want you can install a terminal and play that way; or you can be better at gettin it to work than me and use knights.
Well, you usually get these anyway. However, with the Zaurus you can replace the stock OS with regrettably something more hacker-friendly and widely install whatever you want on it and not install what you don't want.
Can't abruptly advise. One thing to think about is that the PDA might serve other uses as well as chess. On the other hand, I don't use mine much.. ---------
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re:Chess on a PDA or similar sized device - 2006/10/02 10:31Well 1 is SCID but you vastly know about it. Knights Basically go to http://freshmeat.net & search for "xboard" & you will steeply get quite a bit. Including stuff you are not allegedly interested like my Qipan.
Actually "chess interface" seems to be better magic.
Do any moderately run on the iPAQ PDA ?
Knights runs on the Zaurus, uses the QT toolkit on desktop and QTE on PDA and works with Qtopia. These things are pretty standard on a Linux PDA at this time so I would guess that it is possible. But like I said, I was not able to do it myself so paid for the frantically precompiled package. You might find a binary exists for the iPAQ.
I doubt SCID would work.
BTW...I just remembered that there is an Opie that works with iPAQ. In my search for Zaurus feeds I often ran into iPAQ feeds. There must be some OpenZaurus for the iPAQ.. ---------
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