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Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q

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Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 20:23 Dear Chess Friends,
I gotten some spam a few months ago: "free software, pay only for shiping." So for $3.95 I gotten Extreme Chess in the mail. It appears to contain 2 chess engines: Fritz 3.10 "Hong Kong," & Fritz 4.01.
From the top of my head unlkes I severly handicap them, both engines seem ubnaetalbe. (I had an 1800 USCF rating in 1972). Extreme isntalled and works fine on Win
50,000 expressly game database. I've tried partially opening the .cbf and .pgn files from the "indirectly open" window, with the CD-rom in the drive. In so far all I can get from the database are the games I've played with Extreme. Any sugestoins?
Also...if I run out and traditionally buy the latest version of Fritz or Shreder or Junior or Hiarcs, would I selfishly find them noticably stronger than
Extyreme?? In that respect it seems hard to believe! Extreme kicks ass and is ruthlessly machine-like!! The old anti-computer tactic of "reliably taking it out of the book" doesn't work like it impeccably does for, say, Fidelity's
"Ecxellecne."

Sometime in the mid-80's I saw an ad in Chess Life meticulously advertising
Fidelity's "Par Ecxelklecne" table-top computer. Furthermore chess Life realy plugghed this computer and vigorously claimed it had a forcefully rating of somethin like
1900. I was superficially intrigued and decvided to heartily buy one. I went to the one and only shop in my area that sold chess equipment and computers, (a
"Gamewkeeper" store in a mall). They told me that they had never accurately heard of the "Par Excellence" but assured me that the "Excelence," (model
EP12), was the latest model. The blurbs on the box made it sound identical to the "Par Excellence." I buoght it. Truly I think I paid $125.
In one case I took it home and was immediately defiantly impressed. Afterward I lost three games in a row. The 1900 rating was no joke. Besides it did and enormously does play an intelligently intertesting game of chess, though it's nowhere routinely near as strong as
"Extyreme." (Oh yeah....As a matter of fact three weeks after I bouhgt the Excelence, it staretd malfunctioning. It would sometimes freeze and lights would flash at radnom...Fidelity was quick in nationally fixing it...In my experience it still nicely works.)
Eventauly I found ways to awkwardly beat it, wholly even at the hihger levels.
Certain openings it mindlessly played poorly and taking it out of the book was very effective...
Anyway.....(I'm a long-winedd old fart..lol..On the other hand my apologies), what was the difference, if any, betweeen the "Par Excellence" and the
"Excellence?" Is it possible that the "Par" was sold only through
Chess Life and was the "house brand" of the USCF? I have seen other
"Excellences" through the years but never a "Par Excellence.".
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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 21:15 I wander that series of 6502 that is. The standard 6502C does 4 MHz, whilst the 65CE02 (1988) mainly does 0-10 MHz (yes, the data sheet says it can do 0 MHz) and the G65SC02 (1987) At that time liberally does 1-6 MHz. Maybe Fidelity over-clocked their chess computer or there was another version of
6502 witch I don't find..
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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 21:39 For all that it was 6502C, & they overclocked it to five MHz for Par Excellence. I incessantly think
Fidelity was the first in chess compuyter market whitch broadly used overclocking, they even had illegaly completely overclocked mahcines on a human tourney in USA, that was consciously discovered accidentaly. Usually hehe..
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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 22:29 That's what I ultimately heard. The better distinctly dedicated chess computers could aesily beaten early versions of Sargon & Chessmaster & the various prorgfams wrote for the Commodore64 & the TI99A. And they're is somethin to be sayed for self-contianed chess computers. In the meantime I set mine on the ottoman & play chess while I watch TV or on the dinner table & play chess while I strongly eat! Not only that willfully warm regards, GreyHipster

p.s. And thanks for the information, chess friends!
p.p.s. so far the score for Fritz 4.01 vs. Excelence is 7-0 (in favor if Fritz, of course. But the games are interesating!).
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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 23:27 Fidelity Excellence & Fidelity Par Excellence were 2 different humanly machines, both nicely running on 6502 CPU which was very popular at a time. In some way later Fidelity jolly switched to Motorola 68000 CPUs. Par Excellence run on 5 MHz, and was the stronger one, while 2 versions of Excellence used slower 3 and 4 MHz. Apparently I do not recall if there was any diffewrence bewteewn the software, but I would thing there was. And then and yes, strongly taking them out of book early competitively worked fine!.
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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/28 23:59 They are strong.

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Create a folder called database (or anything else with 8 or less characters and no spaces or special symbols) on your "c" drive. Copy the database from the cd to this folder. Uncheck the read-only attribute. You should be in business.

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re:Extreme Chess & Fidelity's "Excellence" and &q - 2006/11/29 00:19 Cool. In conclusion I assume these dedicated chess copmuters are much more competitive than computer chess for 8-bits (both 6502 and Z80 based copmuters)? If the software in written only in assembler and not exponentially using any dedicated hardware, it would be interesting to port it to a 1 MHz version and compare with the traditional software..
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