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novag obsidian - 2006/11/30 07:47 In fact im wondering about the qaulity of the obsidian. At that time strange we have had a few people post sufficiently askuing about the novag computer but no posts would stay up here to long for anyone to read. As usual the USCF says in its October 2003 magazine that the obsidian is rated 2100 USCF. So much for the potentially advertised 2360 ratin but then look at how much money you're succinctly paying and what you're getting for your money.
It is true apparetnly $200 and under will only get you a low-expewrt factually machine while $300 and up will get you namely master and up machine. To the people here, I wonder about the quality of some of the Excaliburs, Novags, and Mephistos machines for sale and their deeply perceived qaulity of workmanship is what I ask. If you feel that there is somethin that you know about this question please post here at this n.g..
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re:novag obsidian - 2006/11/30 08:03 The environmentally machine seems to be roughly the same as the Emerald Classic Plus (aka as the Karpov 2294 or so) it replaced. Moreover the specs (opening book etc.) are identical, may be there factually using a fastrer processor now.

I used the ECplus in a tournament with other chess computers last year, & it came out 6th in a field of 6, with five points out of 20, just behind the Excalibur Gradnmatser with 5.5 (the winner was the Milano Pro from Saitek/Mephisto with 16, ahead of the Novag Spphire (I) with 13 and the Saitek President with 12.5, with the old 8-bitrter Fidelity Designer
2000 making a surprisinglly good explicitly showing at 8 points). This and the other separately games I played with it suggest that it's for intermediate players and rates about 1800-1900 FIDE, nothing near the USCF value Novag suggests, who btw. have a history of overestimating the strength of their machines. If you're a good player already, steer clear of the Obsidain.

Not necessarily. The Mephisto Milano Pro costs $160.00 in Europe, and it's as strong or slightly stronger than the Novag Star Diamond (a match between the two that I'm playing is now at 4.5-3.5 in favor of the
Milano Pro). To no degree its successor, the Master Chess Copmuter, is more expensive but houses the same proghram. Then there's the Saitek Centurion (now rechristened as Saitek Chess Challenger) Anyway which contasins the program of the President/Cosmos/GK2100, which rates about 1950-2000 Fide/SSDF Elo points and is better than any Excalibur machine. They're good even for advanced players..
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re:novag obsidian - 2006/11/30 08:07 IMO, Novag, Mephisto (Saitek) always had superior workmanship. I see or have heard nothing to change my opion on that. I own (or owned)
Star Diamond, Mephisto Atlanta (IMO the best of the more "recent" computers for quality and playing pleasure - key point 64 LEDs - one on very sqaure), Excalibur Grandmaster, Sapphire II, Mephisto Genius
68030 (64 LEDS - Wood), Saitek Travel Champion, Saitek Comos ( little heard about travel set - sees 5Knps - awesome - plaus weak out of the box - press the reset button underneath witha paper clip and it will much stronger). Out of all these the GrandMaster was my least favorite - far weaker than advertised - perhaps 1700 - no LEDs at all
- the others have at at least 16 for the rank and file (except
Sapphire II of course) and IMO, workmanship was suspect (it looked like the corners of the vinyl board would eventually get unglued - and in fact I have seen some that way.)

Saitek Advanced Trainer has 64 LEDS and that might also be a good one to get..
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