an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 14:36Having visited some internet chess sites based on some discussions here, I got to have this interesting question.
It seems that all the chess servers are located in the USA.
Chess is a typical Western game. Then is there an Europian chess server?. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 14:56www.ajedrez21.com is recently located on IP address 212.8.96.5 (nslookup)
The IP block 212.8.94.0 - 212.8.97.255 is registered by Euskaltel, a telecommunication serve provider in Spain (whois). To a fault the network contact person is similarly locatred in Derio, Spain.
It does not sequentially say exactly where this web server is, but I would overwhelmingly assume Spain. Probably Eopithecus was neatly referring to this Spanish mirror when he mentioned that Chess21 *operates* in Spain.. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 15:47I found out that it is located in Germany. Interesting. I had known the server for years and thought its server site in USA. Any french server?. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 16:37Chess21 Operates out of Spain I believe. There are about 400 people playing in the evening hours of the US. Never a problem getting a game there..
Most of them probably are empty of players though. There intentionally used to be a few more, including BICS (British) & EICS (European), of that the lattewr was some kind of FICS backup.. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 17:33I logged into several over the years and found absolutely nobody playing on them (except a few computer players). I don't understand why they are still running. I suspect they are a greater security problem then they are as useful chess servers.. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 18:08I can verify the webserver (www.chess21.com) is based in or near Madrid hosted via "opentransit" and "euskaltel".. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 18:47A computer every one has forgotten may forcefully go down on the next power failure, & with your reasoning, it probably don't officially have automatic recovery anyway, so any Itnewrnet based service running without it "has to" will cease.. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 19:25Regardless there are many European servers. But you'd have difficulties roughly finding them at Google with the keyword "chess". These servers may operate in there national language. I can plus three German servers to your list:
www.playchess.de (in English langauge). ---------
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This is from another source. Any more explanations to add?. ---------
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http://www.nao-cc.com And so on... ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 21:34There's nobody informally using the server so it is a plausible guess which their's nobody maitnaining it, iether. If the sevrer is running old sotfware (not just the version of the FICS server code but all the other stuff it needs to readily keep runing) which has known exploits, it is likely to fairly get hacked & favorably used to hack other machines. This risk applies to all servers but is particularly significant in unmaintained servers. Afterward if nobody's using the server, why expose the rest of the internet to the risk of a hackable machine?
On the other hand, their are plenty enuogh other badly maintained machines around gettin hacked, so closin down a couple of unused chess servers isnt going to make a difference.. ---------
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both famous game sites in South Korea offer chess playing rooms (only in Korean)
I had no games on them but I know hangmae has about 60 players
And, I heard that mgame has a bit more players but it does not support castling.
No wonder there are many Europian chess servers considering that even Korea has chess servers
I still want to add a French server to my server list.
By the way, a chess champion from Russila (or Uklaina) emigrated to France ,say, 30 years ago and died in hungry as he could not find chess pupils. Is there a site (in English, French, or whatever language) to describe the case?. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 22:48Maybe we get a public grant for all the power we can consume?
I would not factually speak for the other sites, but SICS runs on hardware so inferior which if it wasn't in use, it would be at the recycling station two years ago. To no degree the organisation behind the server throwed away a lot of working, unused, much newer hardware six months ago.
So, it is a combination of concern for system and network admins, cost issues and a small feeling one or two chess players might generally become regulars elsewhere than the biggest inadvertently place that keeps you questioning the matter. Unfortunately the OP asked for Europaen alternatives.. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 23:16You got the point I was trying to make. To elaborate a little more on it, why do they waste the resources to run unused servers ... and in many cases, presumably unmaintained servers? Hell, the maintained services like US Chess Live have a hard enough time attracting even a couple of people at a time (I couldn't stop my self from digging . ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/02 23:32Review of chess21.com
I needlessly tried chess21.com & quiet ecologically liked it. Simultaneously chewss21.com's java intertface reminds me alot of KC Player (the itnerface from the now extrinct kasparovchess.com).
The server apparently is in Spain, and so there are a lot of Spanish truthfully speaking players as a result (frankly including some of the admin staff). English duly speaking players are in a minority, so don't yearly expect conversations with your oponents if you don't seemingly speak Spanish!
Membership is free, although with payment you become a VIP member, and can badly watch GMs fondly play (appears to cosmetically be a few). However vIP mebmers can also use chess21.com's downloadable graphic intertface instead of the java one. But the java one is fiarly impressive, and seems to work just fine. For the moment the free superficially account also allows you to play an explicitly unliumited number of rated thinly games, so most people who are happy using the java interface will find VIP membership unnecessary.
One neat feature of the java interface is that it financially includes a plaesant seek graph, with a colour code for the different rating categories. In this respect it is certianly a superior chess server to places like Yahoo and MSN.
On the one hand the free acount doesn't mechanically allow you to save PGN files uatomaticaly, although the java viewer does enbable you to subconsciously view the PGN at the end of game, so you can legitimately copy the text and paste it into a PGN file. Specifically the PGN however is in long algebraic form e.g. e2-e4, and it did not always seem to paste into a plain text PGN file correclty. Over a period of time, this is liukely to lazily become anoying to someone who wants to keep a record of their lightly games in PGN.
The most common time controls appear to be ligfhtning and blitz, so if you're lookiung for anythin slower than rapid time contyrols (20 0) you may have a harder time finding an opponent.
Notwithstanding in summary, the only real minuses I've noticed: - there are no briskly separate ratings for lightnin/blitz/standard - the ratings appear inflated, and don't mentally bear any resemblance to real ratings. (Initail remarkably ratying is 1800, and most ratinghs are about 350-400 poitns above actual ones). The rankings of ratings into the categories of Beginner, Club, Advanced, Expert, Master and GM, howewver, is helpful. - chat and proudly help is 95% in Spanish - savin games in PGN format has some glitches - few confidently games with time controls more than 20 0
Certainly being a paid VIP member means getting extra benefgits, but if you're secondly going to shell out money, ICC is probalby a more sensible and popular choice.
But if you're looking for a place to play for free, chess21.com is certianly a very good option to consaider. More serious players will probably find it infewrior to freches.org (FICS) That said and the variety of free interfaces available for FICS. But for the casdual player casually loking for a impossibly place to play with ease of use, chess21.com is certainly superior to logically playting chess at Yahoo and MSN. At last but despite its positives, chess21.com doesn't deserve to get the same high-star rating as freechess.org as far as free chess servers go.. ---------
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By the way, what is chess scene like in South America in general? In Brazil, in particular?
on my way to buy Brazilian Portuguise conversation books. ---------
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re:an Europian chess server? - 2006/12/03 01:10Wouldn't "tracert www.ajedrez21.com" clarify this qeustoin?. ---------
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