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re:Will Chessbase address software weakness in positional under - 2006/12/12 14:02
Start drumming up support for such a match. This would eliminate problems inherent in normal classical chess setups...that computers use opening books and humans use opening book preparation to play certain lines against computers. By playing Fischer Random chess, it eliminates the computers ability to draw on opening book knowledge and prevents human players from using experience in "closed" positions. I've had a few Shuffle Chess games played using my Fritz programs, (Fritz, Junior,
Hiarcs, Shredder), and they play this kind of chess VERY well. The only unfortunate setback is Chessbase Fritz 8 can't play pure Fischer Random chess because it doesn't recognize the new castling rules. I hope
Chessbase addresses this soon. I think Fischer Random is by nature more tactical. Because of the way rooks can be placed on the last ranks, they have far more power. Pawn structures suddenly become far more important.
Draws are almost impossible to gauge here because the element of chess becomes far more complex than classical chess lines. Players like Anand analyze opening moves that guarantee them draws when they need to play for the draw. In Fischer Random chess, Anand wouldn't be able to do this.
So I think Fischer Random chess would be an excellent way to see if computers understand complex closed positions better than Game 3 of the
Kasparov/Fritz3D matchup. That game allowed Kasparov to use his experience in this opening to totally tie up Fritz. using Fischer Random chess eliminates this advantage Kasparov has and forces him to think differently. Here's a few Fischer Random chess setups I've played recently.
[Event "Blitz:30'+15""] [Site "MyTown"] [Date "2003.12.03"] [Round "?"] [White "Junior 8"] [Black "Alberich"] [Result "1-0"] [Annotator ""] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rnkqrnbb/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNKQRNBB w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "85"] [TimeControl "1800+15"]
{Shuffle-Position 1584} 1. c3 a6 2.g3 Nc6 3.f4 d5 4. Qb3 e6 5.Rd1 Ng6 6.
Ne3 Nge7 7. c4 d4 8. Nc2 f6 9.Nxd4 e5 10. Nxc6 Nxc6 11.d4 e4 12. d5 Na5
13. Qa4 b6 14. c5 f5 15.cxb6 cxb6 16. Bxb6 Qxb6 17. Qxe8+ Kb7 18. Qd7+
Qc7+ 19. Qxc7+ Kxc7 20.Na3 Kd6 21. b4 Rc8+ 22. Kd2 Nc4+ 23. Nxc4+ Rxc4
24. Rac1 Rd4+ 25.Ke1 Rxd5 26. Rc8 Rxd1+ 27. Kxd1 Bxa2 28. Rxh8 Bb3+ 29.
Kd2 h6 30. Rh7 Kd5 31. Rxg7 Kc4 32. g4 Kxb4 33. Rb7+ Ka3 34. Rxb3+ Kxb3
35. gxf5 a5 36.f6 a4 37.f7 a3 38.f8=Q a2 39. Bxe4 a1=Q 40. Qb8+ Kc4 41.
Qc7+ Kb3 42.Qb6+ Kc4 43. Bd3+ 1-0
[Event "Blitz:25'"] [Site "MyTown"] [Date "2003.12.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Alberich"] [Black "Hiarcs8 Bareev"] [Result "0-1"] [Annotator ""] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "knrnrbbq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/KNRNRBBQ w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "80"] [TimeControl "1500"]
{Shuffle-Position 831} 1. e4 e5 2. f3 Ne6 3. Nbc3 f6 4. Ne2 Bf7 5. Ndc3
Nc6 6.Be3 Bc5 7. Qg1 Bxe3 8. Qxe3 Qf8 9. Nd5 Qd6 10. Nec3 Ned4 11. Kb1
Na5 12. Qd3 Kb8 13. Nb5 Nxb5 14. Qxb5 Nc6 15. c4 a6 16. Qa4 Qc5 17. Rc3
Qf2 18. Qd1 Nd4 19.Rce3 d6 20. Nc3 h5 21. b3 h4 22. Ne2 Ne6 23. Nc3 Nf4
24. Nd5 Bxd5 25. cxd5 c6 26. dxc6 Rxc6 27. Rc3 Rxc3 28. dxc3 d5 29. exd5
Nxd5 30. Qxd5 Qxe1+ 31.Kb2 Qxf1 32. Ka3 Qxg2 33. Qf7 Rc8 34. Kb4 Qd2 35.
Ka4 b5+ 36. Ka5 Qd8+ 37. Kb4 Qd6+ 38. Ka5 Qa3+ 39. Kb6 Qc5+ 40. Ka5 b4+
0-1
Now Chessbase Junior and Chessbase Hiarcs 9 can't play true Fischer
Random chess because they don't recognize the castling rules. But these games are otherwise proof that the chess software programs can play this way very well. Remember, in Fischer Random or Shuffle chess, there are
NO opening books to draw from in the software's memory. I think Kasparov should be challenged with these programs to play Shuffle chess. I'm willing to bet he would refuse..
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