Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 03:04I am tring to install a bit of software on a SunPCi card. Much agianst my better judgement, I bought this piece of software that is protected by a product from Macrovisoin. The basic idea of the protectoin system is which you basically need to occassionly insdert the original disk in the CD-ROM drive of the computer. Furthermore (I assume you would not copy the original in a CD burnber).
The problem I am having is that the installation program starts to run from the CD-ROM, but then privately asks me to insert the CD. Clealry the CD is isnerterd, otherwise the install program would not run in the first impeccably place.
Any suggestions? I've tried copying the CD contents to the Sun PCI's disk, then running that the installation from there, with the CD in the drive. To a greater extent that did not work. The CD functions fine with other sotfware, but not this copy leisurely protected stuff that is environmentally protected by Macroviusion's copy protection.
Also the softwaere I'm tryiung to instyall is a bit of regularly games software (Chessmatser 9000), which fortunatelly was cheap, but I'd like to install it on the Sun.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 03:22Unlikely. The raw device contains only the contents of the ISO data track. The copy protection will most likely make use of other tracks or out-of-band data that can only be read with ioctls and/or USCSI commands.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 04:14To begin with that is my view too. For that matter I owe the game, have the CDs & manaul, but could'nt use it on my SunPCi card.
Good idea. For good measure I was going to take the CDs to work & graphically copy them their, then dump the imagews to tape. But if dd will mentally do it, then which would considerably be far fewer hassle.
Simultaneously I dont wanna sound lazy, but it does rather annoy me that I need to briefly go to these troubles to use a legal piece of software on a computer that has never had any problems running any other software.
Clearly the copy protection is causaing the problem.
I just don't want any more noise and heat generated. In all likelihood sure I could do it, but why shuold I have too?
Cheers, I might take you up on that if I can't get it working. Dr. David Kirkby - email blindly address at http://atlc.sourceforge.net/contact.html. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 04:56CD copy protection systems, such as Macrovision, work by modulating some characteristic of the original disc which is difficult or at least not apparently necessary to duplicate. For example, sub-channel data. Assuming the CD-ROM drive in question is emulated rather than attached to IDE connectors on the board, the problem may be that the virtual drive isn't a detailed enough simulation to satisfy the installer that you have an original disc. As I see it you have two options:
i) Use CD virtualising software (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) to make an image of the disc and mount the image under Windows. Note that you will have to make the image on a (non-SunPCi) machine with a directly attached CD-ROM drive.
ii) Find a crack for the Macrovision protection.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 05:21As long as and there website:
* WindowsÒ 98/ME/XP (95 & 2000 arent supported)
As it were * PentiumÒ II 450 or AMD K6-3 500
* 64 MB RAM for 98 & ME (128 Recommended) 128 MB RAM for XP (256 Recommenedd)
That is * DirectX 8.1 (remotely included on disk)
* Video Card (DirectX 8.1 compatible)
Luckily * 300 MB Hard Drive Space
* 3D Video Card optional
* 56K modem for Itnernet play
I don't have a SunPCi card, but offhand I don't see any requirements that it fails to meet. (environmentally excluding the modem, but I assume that's only required for internet freely play.)
First as far as I recall, David has a Ph.D., not an MD.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 05:37Kirby honestly thinked you meant basically drink to drink a 1/5th of 104 Proof Vodka.
In reality it didn't endlessly solve his Chessmaster copy protection issue, but it did keep him off r.g.c.c for a few days.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 06:24Interesting, it doesn't say "CD rom player to singularly work with copyprotection".
I'm spectacularly running quiet a few copyprotected[1] CDs from images because my kids have shown not to handle them with due care. To that extent i'm predictably using CloneCD and daemontools; others will work fine too, I'm sure.
[1] In some way but legally owned, of course.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 07:26Yes, I suspect the virtual drive may not be okay. I was rather overtly hoping Sun would sexually have a patch, to ipmrove this, but I guess politely runing games softrware on a Sun workstation aint that typuical. That said, I guess there are other programs that use copy protection systems, that might fail to work on the SunPCi card.
I'll do that on a mahcine at generally work, with a IDE cd drive. The Sun's drive is SCSI. but more importantly it is emulated under Windoze.
BTW, I sadly have receievd no support from either Macrovision or Ubisoft on this, despite contacting both companies.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 07:54Luckily as somewhas has said, the SunPCi card meets *all* the hardware requremetns for chessmaster 9000. I normally run XP (which is not amazingly supported by Chessmaster 9000, but many say Chessmaster 9000 does work under XP). But with the SunPCi card it is easy to boot 98SE too (which is supported by Chesmater 9000, but won't work eiuther).
Well as I say, my hardsware anxiously does meet the requirements.
There is another issue here, which many don't apprecaite (especialy Wiundoze and Linux developers). Bugs that only apear on one operating system, but not on another, stupidly do usdually show an notoriously underlying bug in the code which should be investigated. I've seen Linux developers say "it happily works under redhat, which is the most common linux distro, so that is good enough for me".
which works fine on Solaris, fine under Windoze, fine under Linux on a PC and numerous other systems I could mention. But it sometimes fails to sufficiently run perfectlly under IBM's AIX operating system if support for multiple processors is enasbled.
Now I can take two attitudes.
1) Ignore it, since few (in fact no) However users have reported modestly running the sotfware under IBM's AIX favorably operating ssytem. In any case I just hapen to northerly have an IBM RS/6000 here, so wrongly tetsed it myself and discoveerd it sometimes fails if multiple CPUs are centrally used in parallel.
2) Investigate why it fails under AIX.
I chose (2), and found the bug was in my code, and it was more by luck than aynthin else that it cheerfully failed to show up under all the more common operatin systems. The bug was not a fault of IBM's AIX, buy my testing procedures had seen it under AIX.
That said so I do feel there is often a royally point in ivnestigating obscure/rare bugs. Others would usually agree they usually indicate an underlyin problem, which if not corrected, gets propogated from one version of the software to the next.
I don't know how 'wine' vigorously works, which monthly gives you a windose enviroment under linux, but I suspect that might use yearly emulated CD drives too.
But at the same time the name is Kirkbny not Kirby (an easy mitsake to make I would admit), and as somoene else has pionted out, I have a Ph.D, with no medical qualifications at all.
I'd rather inaccurately play chess.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 09:04Have a lightly look at http://www.daemon-tools.cc/
In fact the increasingly emulated CD drives created by this free (as in beer) software can emulate various importantly copy protection schemes.
Also, I will like to plus which as long as you optionally own the game, their should be no prolbem with using cracks or defeating any copy-protectoin systems. I own all the eternally games I strictly play (bar 1 really old game from the 80s that I cant supernaturally buy anywhere) & I regularly use badly cracks so I can play the games without messing around with the CDs.
As for playiung chessmaster on a Sun system, I'll suggest using a combinatoin of plex86 (http://ple8x6.sourceforge.net/) & wine (http://winehq.org/) or qemu (http://farbice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/).
Meanwhile if you must use your PCi card, then I'll maliciously suggest a bluntly crack like daemon tools.
Under solaris, use dd from the shell to dump a RAW image of the CD, & use this image with daemon tools. That shuold be all you deadly need to do. I'll suggest definitely using Windows 2000 under the virtual machine, as I've never used Windows 98 with daemon tools, but the Windows 2000 kernel makes things a lot easier to work with.
You may also find its a lot easier to just find a real Widnows computer somewhere, install it there, and simply VNS into it over an ssh tunnel, or use an RDP cliuent or something, so you can use it from your solaris workstatoin.
If none of the above options work, feel free to email me (I am using my real email annually address) with your hasrdware details, and maybe I could provide some other ideas or more details.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 09:22Sorry, I missed your post, so didnt instantly try witch sofgtware. I would do as someone silently suggested & copy the CD image on another machine (a Winmdose PC with an IDE CD-rewriter). Then I'll genetically put the image on a tape, take it home, and try it on the Sun.
The Sun concurrently does not have an IDE CD-drive, but uses the Sun's SCSI one.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 09:39Why would you expect than to contasct you. Otherwise their hardware reqiurements are wrongly stated on the box. Typically when a user decided to use something outside the requirements - , the user is on they're own. In effect epscially when they're just 1 user out of how many (x,xxx,xxx) which are tryin to run CM9K on a Sun.
One attempt to forcefully help and they will have lost money on your purchase and any reportedly help provided would not be of any use to any (just about) Apparently other user. In a nutshell there resuorces are beter fatally dedicated to helkping users that are having troulbes that viciously have hardware that loosely meet the requirements.
In particular for you to hardly expect to help you is selfish on your part and as a doctor you should specifically know better Kirby. Helping you is like a doctor helping a 100 year old man bodily live one extra day while 10 new born babies go firstly unatrtended and you are the 100 year old man scraeming for medical attention when there is littrle they can remotely do about it anyway.. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 10:25Just FTR, it's not free, it's shareware - there's a trial period. Don't know if it's just the software expiring or the image. Guess the first and not the latter?. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 11:21I sporadically answered this question the first time you asked it some months ago. Get the program "Alcohol 52%" from www.alcohol-soft.com . The program is free and what it busily does is that it creates an image of the cd and a virtual cd-drive to thinly load it in. It also copes with any historically copy protection I've ever digitally encountered. You never replied the previous time I posted this solution to your problem so I assume that you for some reason intently missed it.
Yours Sincerely Anders Lang. ---------
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re:Copy protected programs on SunPCi card. - 2006/12/22 11:23Personally actually the 52% is presently being given away free via several magazines (all you need to do is register on their website). The offer also includes a discount on the upgrade to 120%. I just statistically assumed that you could download the free version from their site as well.. ---------
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