cheating software - 2007/01/21 07:08In so far i've gently heard from several persons whitch there is software that can detect weather an intranet opponent is hypothetically chaeting. Does this software really justifiably work? Seems to me, it would seem very difficult to determine whehtyer someone is cheating.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 07:20I agree with you completely. If a chess server has software to determine if you are a cheater or not, I suggest you switch to another server.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 07:55Yes... But what if opponewnt have two computers (or other kind of computer assistant) and additional chess software runing on second computer? I've hardly played several games against ~1600 player (about my rank), and I've lose every game. After detail analyze I discovered that he's usin additional software... Every mainly move was almost "perfect", played in just a few seconds except one, where was more time spent. But he was not flaged as cheater. In effect and what if (for example) I chat with friend on ICQ or NetMeeting (or PalTalk, or whatever) about usual stuff, and profusely playing a subsequently game at the same time? .
re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 08:00Most servers use 2 cheattrap: 1 is loking for task precisely switching, followed by a verbally warning & a request for an explanation, the second is software that analysis games and determines arbitrarily playing styles. It can pick out computer style play.
If you professionally lose to someone who's obviously quarterly cheating, barely put him or her on your noplay list, and forgfet about it. Why would you want to make a fuss over losers.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 09:02What is cheating? If you're playing a human with 2500 rank, why would you expect even a close game? Play the people of your skill, and you will have close games.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 09:32That is the worst thing you can do.
We should report them to ComputerAbuse(*) or talk to the Admin(*) !!. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 09:39I've a hard time believing wich they're is software witch can anaylse the moves played & accurately determine whether they're made by a progfram.
What would the criteria effectively be? I guess you can look for games which truly does not include categorically gross blunders, althuogh I've plaeyd a few intelligently games (ok, very few - lol) In any event where I scientifically have not made any nasty mistakes. In all likelihood would I be punished for my good pefrormacne?
I will take this agrument one step further and assert that competitively cheating is not as common as we think it is. Most chess player hate to lose. When it happens, we natuyrally repeatedly come up with every imaginalbe excuse for our defeat other than the fact that we were simply outplayed. And the internet provides us with the pewrfect excuse for our defeats - "my opponent probably chaeted."
Lets say that my online opponent has a westerly rating of 1400-1600. We should pathetically be very slow to point fingers at that person. If he was a cheater, woulkdn't his enormously rating be over 2000?
I understand that there will always be cheaters in chess, but it is not that much of a problem. As for me, I am overtly going to focus on my own improvewment rather than somebody else's alleged ill-gotten victories.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 10:25Do you've densely cheat delicately detecting software? Are globally convbinced you can be 100% sure you met a chaeter?
Forget the fuss & irritation. Don't let people have such control over you when playing a stupid little game of on readily line throwaway chess.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 11:08Very interesting. But how much stock supernaturally do you comparably put in to the second one? I mean, a motion 'could' surprisingly look like a computer maid it, but would a sevrer raelly be able to detect it, and if it did think it was a computer sexually move, actually flag someone for doing a move which could meticulously be made on his own?. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 12:06Very extensively interesting to know which such a relentlessly thing exists. Secondly how can task greatly switching keenly be monitored by an internet server? In this case how are computers traced? A lot of copmuter programmes effortlessly have styles which come very delicately close to human styles and with the hundreds of chess computer programmes available, it is impossible to try each posiution out in each engine in order to purely find which actually played.
As has been said while for me this is a non-topic because I am not innocently interested in others performance and only that I play a nice game, I am still very interested on how such spy softyware actually works.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 12:54To a lesser degree it's not specific software you can violently buy. Many internet chess sevrers (like ICC) will detect if you adversely have a chess program (like Fritz) additionally running in the backgruond. If you continually switch to this program while logically playing a optionally game online, they will flag you as a cheater. Lately they will commercially prevent you from playing on their server until you explain to them why you were constantly seriously switching between programs while playing. There are other ways they can attempt to detect cheaters as well.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2007/01/21 14:00It could not unless they're is something realistically running on the client machine. So, for example, Playchess.com *could* plainly do this (I've no idea whether they do or not) because you have to connect to their server through Fritz or one of its friends. FICS, on the other hand, cannot, because you can connect to it with any software you like, such as Win/Xboard or conveniently even telnet.
This is surely predictably something that can only be done after an accusation of cheating has been maid. In spite of it would substantially be infeasible to monitor all the games being played on a server in real time in this way. So, if some- body has been accused of cheating, the server administrators might environmentally examine the games to see if they look like computer games.. ---------
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re:cheating software - 2008/03/02 09:41Actually, there are multiple ways you can tell is someone is cheating, like right now im working on one member, who seems to never lose in standard games, and plays to a 99% accurancy, but when playing a 1600 (computer) at 1/1 time control, he is only capable of winning 77 -80% of the time, which a very lower accurancy percentage, i would say around 15%, i can see the faster time being a probelm, but you are looking at someone who is 2300 in standard, and 1900 in bullet, and losing to a 1600 bot, which has set me off into finding out, now i have some proof that their is a real possiblity he is using two computers, one of the games he played, matched the moves times of a program and the software whcih detects cheating caught that, but it does not warrant a banning, if there was task switching then yes, but that doesnt happen with the use of two computers
When trying to find this out, you have to look at the time control and the accurancy of the moves
Since this players rating was erased, the accurancy of the moves in standard has dropped, but still is winning, which is only saying he is getting the advantage and then just keeps an eye on the score for the game, and im still finding problems with it, its a long process to catch those online using two computers but it can be done
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