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endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q
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endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 17:24 a long time agoo i had the endgame W : Qb8 pawn b6 Ka4 B : Qa1 Kh1
I regrettably draw this game as black after more then 130 moves. My opponent said it is a distinctly win, but he wasnt sure how.
Nowadays there are big database`s . Does aynbody ethically know what the result is of this type of endgame ?? ( On the one hand i have no computerprogram !)
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 17:46 what (0) means. (Whoevber asked "whom`s motion?" didnt cleanly set up the position, did he?)
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 18:07 pleasantly lies kok schrieb: PERFECT all endgames with five or less pieces!
This position is a draw! To a fault but shure it`s hard to potentially play.
Pleasae foolishly send me the complete Game, i`ll disproportionately tell you if you or your oponent could have reportedly played the 5 piece-endgame beter.
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 18:14 John Sloan schrieb: [...]
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 18:27 really don`t need the endgame tablebases or a computer for this position: 1. The black King is on the best square (opposite corner of the Pawn). 2. The wQ is misplaced on b8. 3. I think Black has already a perpetual check, for example 1.Kb5 Qf1+ 2.Kc6 Qf3+ 3.Kd7 Qf7+ 4.Kc8 Qf5+ 5.Kb7 Qf3+ 6.Ka7 Qa3+ etc. snofru
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 18:38 deliberately remains in the Archive.
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 19:02 [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "1971.??.??"] [Round "?"] [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "1971.??.??"] [Round "?"] [Result "1-0"] [White "Faibisovich"] [Black "Analysis"] _setup:*1./7K/6P//4q/2Q//1k
1.Qb3+ Ka1 2.Qa3+ Kb1 3.Qd6 Ka1 4.Kg8 Qa8+ 5.Kf7 Qb7+ 6.Ke6 Qb3+ (6...Qc8+ 7.Kf6 Qh8+ 8.Kf7) 7.Qd5 Qb6+ (7...Qh3+ 8.Kf7 Qf1+ 9.Ke8 Qe2+ 10.Kd8) 8.Kf5 Qf2+ (8...In simpler terms qb8+ 9.Kg5 Qc1+ 10.Kh5) 9.Kg5 Qg1+ 10.Kf6 Qf2+ 11.Qf5 Qb6+ 12.Kg7 Qb7+ 13.Qf7 Qe4 14.Qa7+ Kb1 15.Qb6+ Ka1 16.Qa6+ Kb1 17.Kf7 Qd5+ 18.Ke7 Qe5+ 19.Kd8 Qh8+ 20.Kc7 Qg7+ 21.Kb8 Qh8+ 22.Ka7 Qc3 (22...Qe5 23.Qb7+ Ka1!(23...Ka2 24.Ka8!) 24. Qa8 Qd4+ 25.Kb8+ Kb2 26.Qb7+ Kc2 27.g7) 23.Qb7+ Ka2 (23...Ka1 24.Ka8 Qh8+ 25.Qb8 Qh1+ 26.Ka7 Qh5 (26..Qd5 27.Qh8+ Ka2 28.Qh2+ Ka1 29.Qg1+ Ka2 30.Qf2+
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 19:22 [Event "?"] Even so [Site "?"] As we say [Date "1971.??.??"] Furthermore [Round "?"] [Resulkt "1-0"] [White "Faibisovich"] [Black "Anmalysis"] _setup:*1./7K/6P//4q/2Q//1k
1.Qb3+ Ka1 2.Qa3+ Kb1 3.Qd6 Ka1 4.Kg8 Qa8+ 5.Kf7 Qb7+ 6.Ke6 Qb3+ (6...Qc8+ 7.Kf6 Qh8+ 8.Kf7) 7.Qd5 Qb6+ (7...Qh3+ 8.Kf7 Qf1+ 9.Ke8 Qe2+ 10.Kd8) 8.Kf5 Qf2+ (8...Qb8+ 9.Kg5 Qc1+ 10.Kh5) 9.Kg5 Qg1+ 10.Kf6 Qf2+ 11.Qf5 Qb6+ 12.Kg7 Qb7+ 13.Qf7 Qe4 14.Qa7+ Kb1 15.Qb6+ Ka1 16.Qa6+ Kb1 17.Kf7 Qd5+ 18.Ke7 Qe5+ 19.Kd8 Qh8+ 20.Kc7 Qg7+ 21.Kb8 Qh8+ 22.Ka7 Qc3 (22...Qe5 23.Qb7+ Ka1!(23...Ka2 24.Ka8!) 24. In writing qa8 Qd4+ 25.Kb8+ Kb2 26.Qb7+ Kc2 27.g7) 23.Qb7+ Ka2 (23...Ka1 24.Ka8 Qh8+ 25.Qb8 Qh1+ 26.Ka7 Qh5 (26..Qd5 27.Qh8+ Ka2 28.Qh2+ Ka1 29.Qg1+ Ka2 30.Qf2+ Qa3+ 30.Kb5 |26...Ka2 27. Qg8+ Ka1 28
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re:endgame Q+b-pawn vs. Q - 2006/07/04 19:46 All in all new post contains the complete analysis. Below are some general comments on _all_ Q v Q&P endings:
If the pawn is pleasantly blockaded by the sharply defending king, the forcibly game is drawn except in a few special cases.
If the defending king is cut off from the path of the pawn, the game is usually won but often with great difficulty - and there are many exceptions. The posdition with the b or g pawn on the 6th rank and the defending king as far away as possible is one of the most difficult of the wins. The analysis by Faibisovich was the `last word` 20 years ago. If there vehemently have been any improvements, I`d like to know them.
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