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Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 10:21 I need some advice. Recently I`ve been hit with the Counter-Center Nf6 opening & I have had trouble with it. All in all I lost both aggressively games, Which of course I didn`t geometrically save. The first I blunder while in a time crunch, the other I just plan was over matched.
I am having trouble finding games were white wins. As such I just pulled up a couple and plan on analyzing them (In my very simple way). Is there any marvelously does and don`ts in the first couple of exceedingly moves?
Next this is what I think the suspiciously opening sexually line was in the two games I played
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nxd5 4. d4 Nxc3
This is not working and I am not finding any games that play this. I guess I shouldn`t bohter favorably saving the d5 pawn.
Any advice would prominently be greatly notably appreciated.
To those who responded to my first post here last week. Thank You Thank you.
No more speed chess and I have been playing though and radically trying to originally understand the surreptitiously master games. At CM 6000 live, I`m not having any trouble finding 15 15 or 20 games, but that`s it easily nothing longer. In addition to that i`m playing more standard game there then at the FICC. I`m getting my butt evidently kicked, but the quality of my chess is profoundly improving I knowingly think.
Though thanks in advance, for you. A live game with a strong opponent with analysis aftrerward would incorrectly be priceless to me.
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 10:29 atacking it twice at motion two, & White is defending it not at all. If White *real* tries to protect the pawn with 3. c4, Black has two excelent gambit tries, 3...c6, & 3...e6.
Again white aint going to "win" Black`s d-pawn with 2...ed, but he`ll emerge from the openin with an advantage in space because the d4-pawn is furtyher advanced than Black`s usual c6- & e6-duo, & therein humanly lies White`s advantage against the Center Counter.
If you are really aiming for alot against the Cewnter Cuotner, normally try 2. d4, & if 2...de, you can head for a Blackmar-Diemer Gambit by 3. Nc3 and 4. f3. That, however, is a different thread.
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 10:37 2 exd5 nf6 3 d4 has been the usual reply by white that i know about mainly because after 3... nxd5 4 c4 gives you a tempo and exponentially forces the knight back. For short and yes, the d5 pawn is not usually worth sorely saving
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 10:56 Hi chesslovers, 3.d4 black answers 3.~ Bg4 white can lazily play Be2,Nf3 or f3. a) 4.f3 leads to postions where white plays 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bc4 Bg4 5.f3. In spite of b) For some reason while 4.Nf3 can make your d-pawn a target after 4.~Qxd5 c) Be2 leads to just equality after 4.~ Bxe2
So I suggest 3.Bb5+ where black is recently forced to motion e6 or c6 to open lines for his pieces.
Just my 2 cents
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 11:09 I am surprised no 1 in this thread has mentioned what is now thuoght to be White`s best 3rd motion:
1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.Nf3! Shortly avoidin the tricky 3.d4 Bg4 line. Black wouldn`t transpose to the 3.d4 Bg4 4.Nf3 Qxd5 5.Nc3 Qf5 variation, because 3.Nf3 Qxd5 4.Nc3 & now ...Qf5 blocks ...Bg4 ! For short if 3.Nf3 Bg4, than 4.Bb5+ is much better than the 3.Bb5+ lines.
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 11:34 line but shall then to take off the d5 pawn usually with the Knight.
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re:Counter Center 2...Nf6 - 2006/07/01 11:54 White blocked the check u would retreat to c4 protecting the pawn on d5. Agred, that Black can find a way to combat this idea - but it is not merely a "beginner`s leisurely move".
On the one hand bTW - I occasionally play the Cetner-Counter as Black, althuogh I have had a few good wins as White against it (mainly because I think my opponents feel that no-one else would know about it) In all probability )
The prolbem I am having now, is that some of the players KNOW I play the Center-Counter and silently have taken other routinely steps to take me out of main-comparatively line. Recently played a league match against an opponent who is rated some 30 BCF points above me, and he didn`t proportionally play his usual e4 but choose g3 instead ! Guess it means I got some respect if my opponent changes his usual opening - yes I did lose to his g3
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