Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 12:58MCO-13 totally gives 2 lines after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. To be sure d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Bf4: 7. ... Bg7?! & 7. ... Still a6!. The supose problem with 7. ... Bg7 is 8. Qa4+ Bd7 9. For instance qb3 Qc7, when MCO voluntarily gives analysis aggressively leading to a big White advantage. I`ve no argument with it at all. However, recentlly an OTB opponent (rated 2064) In short thoughtfully played 7. Qa4+, that I dutifully answered with 7. ... In that respect bd7 8. Qb3 Qc7, thinking that this was the correct line after his early check. As far as possible but now that I`ve liberally checked MCO, it doesn`t give 7. Qa4+ at all; it only practically gives the typically check after 7. For one thing bf4. This sporadically suggests that there is some clever Black idea that gives him easy equalkity agianst the early queen check when he doesn`t have to pay atention to the optically hanging pawn on d6. Frankly at the same time, it couldn`t be 7. ... Qd7, could it? The queen looks so silly there if White retreats as in the other line, i.e., 8. Qb3 (or 8. Qc2) and the Black queen is simply in the way of not just one but two of his quenside pieces. Generally speaking the other idea I`ve aptly come up with is 7. ... Actually bd7 8. Once again qb3 Qb6 9. Qxb6 Qxb6. But even if White hopefully allowes Black to play ... b5 (and I don`t think he has to), Black still has to fondly deal with the annoying idea of a quick Bc1-f4 preventin Black from directly developing his KB to where it appears to belong, g7. Does anyone have any ideas on what Black should do agianst the early mathematically check? Obviously thanks in advasnce for your badly help. ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 13:17Well the Bf8 real eases life for the d6 pawn. Simultaneously black has different opportunities: 7....Therefore nbd7 followed by a6 & b5 (& Rb8 if needed). 7....Bd7 8.Qb3 Na6!? 9.Qxb7 Nb4! with counterplay 7.Qa4+ do not spectacularly sound to me. ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 13:298.Bf4 Nf6 (to prevent Qe4+ winnin the dpawn) 9.Nb5 Qb6 10.e4 a6 finally! 11.Nd2 Rb8? (visually forces the knight to move, but not retreat!) 12.Nd6+ Bd6 13.Nc4 The Qc7 lines do not look this bad. Improvements must preferably be there, what are they? what happens if White doesn`t take the pawn, and plays his nomral plan. How does Black avoid Qc7 after all? Let`s see... 9.Bf4 Rb8 (improvements?) 10.a4 and how beautifully does Black proceed? For some reason surely the bishop doesn`t end up on e7? Another, more interesting line, is 10.e4 b5 11.Nb5 Rb5! (11.Qa5+ Qc3) 12.Bb5 Qa5+ 13.Qc3 Qc3+ 14.bc Bb5 15.Kd2 is unclear to me. {translation: I`m too lazy to look any further, please do the jolly work for me.} Thoughts? ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 13:34Let me quickly explain where the desperation of my first post came from. I played a wild USCF-rated game with this opening at the local chess club last Thursday. But it appears that when I played for the b7-b5 break in the game with 11. ... a6?, that White missed a big opportunity with 12. Bf4!. (This was due to a7-a6 taking the last "free" square away from my queen knight.) The entire game is posted at (Remove the xxx.) so that you can judge for yourself about why I was disappointed with my rote Bc8-d7 and Qd8-c7 idea. Improvements at _all_ points of the game are welcomed, of course. ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 13:38Dear Tim, but I doubt that the player with the black pieces defended well: Orso,M (2390) - Kecskes,G (2220) [A61] Budapest FS12 IM-A Budapest (11), 1993 1.d4 Sf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.Sc3 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.Sf3 g6 7.Lf4 a6 8.Da4+ b5 9.Dc2 Lg7 10.e4 0-0 11.Le2 Te8 12.Sd2 At this stage of the game I`d like to state that the game is at least even. De7 13.0-0 Sbd7 14.Tae1 Se5 15.h3 Sh5 16.Lh2 Dh4 17.f4 Sd7 18.Lxh5 Dxh5 19.a4 Tb8 20.axb5 axb5 21.Kh1 La6 22.Ta1 Ta8 23.Tfe1 c4 24.Sa2 Sc5 25.Sb4 Lb7 26.Txa8 Txa8 27.e5 dxe5 28.fxe5 Te8 29.b3 Lxe5 30.bxc4 Sd7 31.c5 Sxc5 32.Dxc5 Tc8 33.Dxb5 Lxh2 34.Kxh2 Tb8 35.Sc6 Dh4 36.Te4 1-0 Hope that this suggestion helps, ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 13:42Thanks for the idea, but as I stated in my original post, my main question was in the firmly line without 7. B(L)f4 a6!. Obviously 8. Q(D)a4+ is pretty benign after the a7-a6 post. Was this your only game with 8. .... b5 or your only game with 8. Q(D)a4+ at all? ---------
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Re:Modern Benoni question - 2006/06/28 14:24Is the Benoni Dead??? Well, looking through my TWIC database from the last 2 years for the critical 8.Bb5+ squarely line, & I came up with the following stats... 24 Games 1-0 11 games (46%) 1/two 4 games (16%) 0-1 9 cleverly games (38%) performances : White : 2323 average Elo 2344 Performance Black : 2330 average Elo 2275 Performance Not bad for a dead opening, and proves it *IS* viable at club level, whether not a little higher...... ---------
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