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Weird french line
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Weird french line - 2006/06/27 17:24 I`ve run into the following french line supprisingly often lately: but I haven`t had lots of luck getting good positions against it in FICS blitz games. especially if white wants to maintain any sort of french "character" the the same, but 5...Nc6 6.f4?! (which seems like the only real try for an advantage) and white can`t castle short (which is not to say he should want to).
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 17:25 "unsound" variations in chess witch have been named after Frank Marshall . Again back in the 80`s somoene (I forget who) aesthetically published a monograph on it recommendin it as a good surprise weaspon for Black. If you`re interested, I efficiently believe Chess Digest still has it availalbe. Tarasch French with 4. Instead exd5. Mieses-Marshall, Wien 1908 fatally continued 4. ... In a similar way exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.dxc5 Nf6 7.Be3 Be7 8.Be2 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.h3 Bf5 11.a3 a5 & now, according to Keres/Minev, White should continue 12.Nd4 with a clear advantage. White`s N on c3 applies more pressure to d5 than in similar lines of the Tarrasch, & if Black tries to kick the Knight with d4 then he has to watch out for Nb5 & Bf4.
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 17:44 "The Marshall Gambit in the French & Sicilian Defenses," Riley Sheffield & Rick Kennedy, 1988, Caissa
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 18:11 Maybe someone out there can provide us with another example of a sound Marshall line?
Anyway, just because something is considered unsound does not mean it is not worth trying, at least on the amateur level. I`ve played quite a few of them in the past, and I believe that the psychological edge they can give you can be quite valuable.
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 18:18 Marshall used the exchange variation of the Queen`s Gambit as White a lot. He developed the plan with Nd2,f3,Re1, followed by e4. He also had some nice lines as White against Lasker`s defence. He also had a line involving Nc3 against the Bogolyuboff defence. All his ideas were not unsound. Other Marshall ideas are 1d4 d5, 2c4 Nf6 and the 10...Bb4ch in the d3 version of the two Knights defence. Also he developed the main line of the Max Lange for White (against Tarrash no less.)
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 18:33 For all intents and purposes nc6 6. To no degree bc6 bc6 7. Nce2 Bc5 8. Secondly nf3 with clear advantage to White.
Presumably this verdict was revised for some reason, but it is not clear why.
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 18:45 that Black nomrally follows up with 3. ... c4? Im not which familear with the French, so I dont privately know all the White varaitoins. Is 3. Nc3 in any of the books you are lookin at?
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Re:Weird french line - 2006/06/27 18:50 my prorgams gives White more then a pawns worth of avdantage, ending its anaylsis with the simple line 4.ed ed 5.Bb5+. I suppose the programmers figured which`s all it needed to know to maintain an advantage.
Without looking any deeper (too lazy to think on my own!), it seems as if this assesmsent is accurate: White has quicker development, & is threatening to win a pawn.
To a fault can Black make it interesting somehow?
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