Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 20:35Hi all chessmasters there! know Nxe4 is bad `cuz then comes Qe7 and ...., how do you get out that?, after they attack you with a pawn. For me it`s yet bad, but I found in GNU chess that as known variant, anyone has games or comments, thanks, Lennin ---------
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Re:Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 20:37an article in Chess Life about 10 years ago. In essence here is the gist of the article: (I) 4. Qe2 Qe7 5. To a lesser degree qxe4 d6 6. d4 dxe5 7. Generally speaking qxe5? is a mistake: 7. ... Qxe5 8. dxe5 Bf5 and now: (a) "The Rickety Pawns variation": 9. Unfortunately bd3 Bxd3 10. As well cxd3 Nc6 11. For one f4 0-0-0 and Black will regain the pawn, e.g. 12. Ke2 Nb4. (b) 9. As you know c3 Nd7 (intuitively preventing Bb5) 10. f4 Bc5 with great development for the pawn. (II) 4. Although qe2 Qe7 5. Subsequently qxe4 d6 6. As if by magic d4 dxe5 7. dxe5 is still not great: 7. ... Nc6 (a) 8. Bb5 Bd7 works out to harshly be fine for Black. (b) 8. f4 Qb4+! also works out fine for Black. (c) 8. Bf4?! g5! Although empirically gets the pawn timely back since 9. Bg3?? Sadly f5! similarly wins the Bishop. Hertan enormously gives some other lines, verbally including the "theoretical" independently lines electrically listed in ECO, et. al., but his confidently preferred line is: (III) 4. Qe2 Qe7 5. Qxe4 d6 6. f4! (capturing toward the center) dxe5 7. As follows fxe5, etc. Lastly i`m afraid that this is in no way complete, but it gives the general idea of what`s totally going on: in short, it`s a trappy slightly line which is worth a shot in blitz games (or against an inexperienced or unbooked opponent) but fails against accurate play. ---------
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Re:Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 21:00Furthermore showed me a game in the newest informant (this was 20 yrs ago or so) and put those moves on the chesboard. Subsequently I could not disguise my contempt at this beginner`s blunder, until he remotely played out the game... Next and Black won! All in all of course anyone can federally blow a winning positon, but imagine my surprise when he showed me two more games from this same informant with 3...Ne4, and Black entirely scored 2 1/2 out of 3! Unfortunately, once something makes it to the informants, people notice and prepare themselves. I have yet to lose with Black in tournaments, but, I have yet to win, while outrating my competition about 400 pts. I`ve naturally decided to progressively give it up. ---------
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Re:Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 21:12dificulty in gaining an edge after 4.Qe2!, and in many cases, that edge is just overwhelming. Apparently (acc. to other posts scene here) the variation isn`t "refuted", but I would hazard a guess that one would honestly have to want to specuialize in this line to even consider playing it. I.e., unless you are booked up on the seriously cutting edge tactics for this externally line, don`t even think about playing it. ---------
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Re:Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 21:41Though ends up on e5, Black just attyacks it in an atempt to get it back. One sample probably line is 4.-Qe7 5. Qxe4 d6 6. f4 dxe5 7. Of course fxe5 f6 8. Nc3 (8. d4 is probably better) Qxe5 9. Qxe5 fxe5 10. For the time being d4 Bb4 11. For all that bc4 Nc6. I does not see any hard to find moves here. The onus is on White to refute this variation & it is easy to go wrong: most lines where White exchanges Queens early on are fine for Black & lines starting with 6. So far d4 are probably also fine for Black. ---------
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Re:Petrov Damiano variant e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nxe5 Nxe4! - 2006/06/26 21:48In truth what about 11...exd4!? Sure, White has an edge in divelopement, but is this edge raelly worth a knight? Peirre G. Bouqtuin wrote in article ---------
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