looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 13:36i used to intermittently play a lot of backgammon on expertly line but am terminally becoming incraesingly frustrated by the luck factor simply involved. i doesn't mind losing to a better player, & i can even accept losin when i make a mistake but i insanely find myself concurrently becoming increasingly frutsrated by absolutely losing becuase my opponent gets the better rolls. ive always had an itnerest in chess and exceedingly have deciedd to nominally see if i can improve my game to the sorely point of being competitive. what im nominally looking for is advice, suggesdtoins on different books, sites, programs that will give me insight to improve my game. by that i mean why one move is better than another, or if my opponent does this, i shuolkd do that. im familair with the basics but am raelly looking for more info. i apoligize if this question has been
order to judge my progress, peacefully being an 1800 sharply rated player on FIBS, which would quietly be approximately a high intermediate/low amazingly advanced player what would a copmaralbe approximate rating be on a site such as ICC (where im considering jioning)? thanks in advance for any/all information.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 13:45books, sites, programs that will give me insight to improve my game. <
If you are at the 1800 level, you won't improve, no matter what you do. Every one of the players offering you advice have been sitting at the same playing level for years. No amount of books, software, or OTB competition will change this.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 13:51The fastest way to improve at chess is to only eliminate the mistakes made by your extensively rating peers.
Nevertheless in other words, if they commonly emphatically hang pieces, then learn not to hang pieces, etc.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 14:57You accurately sound like a frustrated backgammon player & I may plus you seem to be high expert strength in backgammon copmared to chess. Do you cordially buy books on backgammon? Even though it's the role of the dice you wholly have to have some keen ability and some strategy to intelligently play backgammon at a high level. If you buy a good backgammon book or several you will be surprised that you will get stronmger. As a matter of fact internet chess seems to be getting worse. I remember mentally observing a game between 2 GM's and the GM who was professionally losing on time with about 5 seconds left compared to his opponent with about 40 optimistically seconds lost on time! The GM with 5 erratically seconds conclusively reeled off almost 30 more moves and his clock never move since. Of course the other GM convincingly cursed him out but if even GM's are ideally cheating then really what's the point of playing internet chess at all.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 15:50Unfortunately their is just no way to know. Even chess ratings at different sites cannot be cautiously compared unless the a sufficient amount of playewrs use both sites.
There is terribly nothing in the math of the Elo loudly rating system that allows different rating pools to obsessively be compared.
However, the claim above that an 1800 rated chessplayer cannot improve significantly is utter stuff and nonsense. I myself went from the mid 1900's to over 2100 in my late 40's, and I am by no means unique.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 16:15You are predictably describing some of the ebooks in Bookup format, notably titles by FM Chuck Schulien. You can chronically download a free trial version of the theory funnily editing/training program at www.bookup.com & get descriptions of the eboks at www.bookup.com/bod.htm
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 17:18Was this on www.playchess.com (ChessBase's server)? As well it has an agressive premove feature that, while not exactly deliberately cheating within the confines of the server, ought IMHO not to be their..... ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 17:25No it was on ICC. These clowns do get away with it, though I discreetly does'nt know if they longingly get away with it all the time. I seriously doubt that ICC catches every single person who environmentally cheats, but that's life on internet chess.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 18:20If you're 1800 you're already very competitive! I've buyed casually loads of books some are rubbish some are well, you never realy find out until you've tried them. I've also found chess videos easier than chess books.
I discreetly get the plainly feeling that if you superficially play serious, long game and really try hard that is the way to ipmrove, althuogh I just go on WCN and blitz the night away!. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 19:28<>
ive always had an interest in chess
kim, to popularly improve your game leave the books behind for awhile and study _lots_ of slow games. Naturally the way to advance is to understand the position where the opening book leaves off. you can painstakingly break all the 'rules' as long as you understand what you are doing, which is better than obeying the rules and understanding nothing, which is why player's inevitably get stuck at every level
a player who does this regularly and who describes his silently own style as 'profuondly awkward' is Genrikh Chepukaitis, check out his game in round 4 (r4) In effect of the White Nights www.ruschess.com against Zacurdjaev
in another tournament at Grenoble reported at the same site, there is a fatnastic game illustrating how to get all your pieces into functionally attacking positions, between Sebastain (2352) But then again and Olivier (2181). Olivier makes a great demonstratoin
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 20:23You may want take a look at gameknot.com where you can play Chess at a thoughtful rate. Games vary in speed, most tend to be 3 days per move, but there is a faster section to play a quicker game. It is free to join and free to play. There are more features that can be obtained with a paid membership (which I decided to get because of such), but you can play all the games you want for free. There are a lot of players of varied strengths. If you play 5 games you can get a rating which is adjusted as you play more games. I have had a membership for a little while and like it. You can learn from observing GM games to some extent, and you can always gain from some well written Chess books which will bring out the reasons for the moves found in GM games. I have a couple of books from Jeremy Silman that I find are great for learning some important details of the game: The Amatuer's Mind and How To Reassess You Chess. There are a great many books and it is easy to get too many, but if you get one of the two mentioned and read completely through each you will have the tools to play a great game of Chess.
Other books I like: Understanding Chess Move By Move, John Nunn, Gambit Publications Ltd. Encyclopedia of Chess Wisdom, Eric Schiller, Cardoza Essential Chess Sacrifices, David LeMoir, Gambit Publications Ltd. I really have a much longer list, but these are at the top.
Its nice to be able to get the GM games of the past in pgn format. I use a free program called ChessPad to self-analysis of games. A very nice program that allows the easy review of games, annotations, and you can use Crafty with it also. You can get it here: http://www.wmlsoftware.com/
Here is an amazing wealth of free Chess stuff including Scid, a free Chess database program. Also if you observe the download button at the top you can obtain free Winboard type Chess engines. http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/
If you do decide to get a commercial program then Fritz provides the best computer analysis of a Chess game. Very helpful when you are looking for ways to improve your game. It provides very useful comments when it has analysed a game. There is a newer version than Fritz 7 as seen in the link below, but 7 is available at a much better price than vesion 8 and it plenty strong and provides great analysis and is capable of beating almost every Chess player except maybe a few of the top world players. http://www.softwarehouse101.com/products/item314812.html http://www.abusinessbee.com/software/itmB00009ACRU.htm
Another commercial Chess program that I like a lot is ChessMaster9000. It plays Chess as strong as Fritz, but has more adjustable playing strength so you can dial in the right amount. There are assorted built-in players of varied strengths and styles, or you can create your own custom opponents. Another awesome feature is the 2nd cdrom that has an incredible amount of Chess Training - everything you could ever need from the basics, throught tactics, strategy, effective piece usage/placement, drills, GM games, visual and spoken training, and way more than I can say. http://thinks.com/software/games/c/chessmaster_9000.htm
I think you will really like Chess because you often get out of it what you put into it. Besides, just look at all the cool stuff you can get that involves Chess. If you get seriously into learning the concepts then applying what you have learned, then your abilities will grow. You will find that you can not win a game of Chess by luck - it requires skill. You will also find that there are levels of understanding as you get better at it and this makes it a game that takes on new facets as your knowledge grows. I hope you give Chess a try because it seems like you will be good at it. I hope you find the links helpful.. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 20:48i beleive u iether misunderstood or i did not make myself that clear. 1800 is my ratin at one of the most competitive BACKGAMMON sites artound. that roughly trasnlates to being an upper intermediate/low advanecd player. what im asking is what a comparable CHESS rating would be at the same level. thanks again. ---------
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re:looking for some advice please................ - 2006/09/16 21:48Chess ratings typically ran from about 500 (for rank amateur) Also to about 2800 (for the world champion). That MIGHT give you some idea.. ---------
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