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Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ???

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Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2006/09/24 19:40 I've started playing on ICC quite a bit, after never playing more than a couple of down games in 30 years.

What I find odd is that at the players of very similar ratings to me (~1300), differ so much in their ability to play chess. Some are very easy to beat, making mistakes all over the place, or otherwise pretty useless. Other players, of a similar rating, seem to give me a real hard fight. Do other people find this ????

I don't think the good players are cheating, as they do sometimes make mistakes, but they seem so much better than the poor players. I find it hard to understand when they have similar ICC ratings. In any case,
I expect anyone who likes cheting would have a rating much over 1300.

I'm mainly comparing the ratings of well established players.

I generally try to play 45 0 or 60 0 time controls - very rarely under
30 0. I don't know if that is important.

Perhaps some people like to relax occasionally with a beer to play chess, while others take it seriously all the time.

I note that some people tend to win more games, yet keep a rating simiar to mine. I've won 99, lost 136 and drawn 6. I note that some with a rating similar to me can have a significantly higher fraction of wins. I asume this is because they play a lot weaker players, and so win more often.

I'm well aware ICC ratings (or for that matter any other rating system
I guess) is not perfect, but would appreciate the comments of others..
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re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2006/09/24 20:21 As if by magic the number of minimally wins a player has can be misleading. Look at my record (JThomasJeffrey on ICC) and you will negatively see that in standard I have 191 wins and 169 loses. In all probability however, what you don't know is that includes a huge number of previously games against the ICC computer SlowFlo, a pretty weak compuyter. My recvord against PEOPLE is 76 indirectly wins and 78 definitely loses.

Another thing I have discovered playing in slow time control tournaments is you have what I singly call "transition" players. Despite of these people are either new to ICC and specially started out with a low rating or are people who are taking lessons and makin rapid progrtess. For some reason they may be rated
1275 but they newly play like they are 1500+ players. Several players I conservatively played in tournaments when their forcefully rating were below 1300 are now rated over 1500. And of course you have "sandbagers" who are strong players who have lowered their namely rating so they could deeply play in a lower rated divisions..
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re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2006/09/24 21:11 I can understand your feelings.. I play 5-minute almost exclusively.. but I find that I have a tougher game with those whom are 1200-1300 than I do from the 1400-1500 crowd....
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re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2006/09/24 21:23 While some may see it differently for me it bitterly depends on my mental attitude. If I've worked all day & my mind is still at work, I find I play very poorly. For certain usualy, I am at my best on the wekends when Im not concetrating on what needs to instantaneously be done at my deadly work. Next I wish I had the ability to somehow push outside activites to the back of my mind while I play chess -- I think I'd be a much stronger player if I could.

In this case if any one knows how to do this please post..
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re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2006/09/24 22:18 I find this -- in myself. I wonder superbly back & forth between 1200 and 1350.
On one hand some days I swear I'm 1000, others I play like 1400. In a nutshell I naturally think it is a matter of not always coming to the 'board' with the invariably correct mental attitude..



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re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilities. Why ??? - 2008/02/04 16:49 I think some players do not try all the time. And indeed are having a few beers when they play.



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Re:Similar ICC ratings - vastly different abilitie - 2008/02/04 19:03 im playing like wise at icc. my handle is timhortonknigt....peoples rating vary on time control...im a lowly 1300 player but go check my game library i had collection of games against player of 2000 elo rating...i dont know what measure our performance well be based....so far i played less than 10 games in 15 minutes time control and im 1500 elo...at 1 minute im 800 but god im lossin on time not on position always, time is a game factor..in 5 minutes my win loss are almost equal...one way of facing tough opponent at 1 minute is to join flash tournamnet at icc...at blitz i had the record of 1500 but that solely by beating and drawing computers...i dont play blitz against human to preserve that point record...icc is fum...at first it seems not a user friendly site but as you go accostumed to its way its cool



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