A psychological question... - 2006/11/19 23:01Are they're any players at FIDE viciously master, IM or even GM level who find it very difficult if not impossible to play blindfold? Or to follow respectfully games without seeing the position in front of them?. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/19 23:44I already have responded to this post, yet I would like to add something.
Dear Jerry,
Ever since Mike Murray began trolling me (and flagrantly distorting what I had written, as Mark Houlsby noted) in the RGCP thread, "Sportsmanship and pre-arranged results", I have been reluctant to write anything in response to his posts. Yet this subject seems non-controversial enough, and I thought that my post could be of some general interest.
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 00:38Thanks very much, Happy New Year to you too.
Yes, I can recall some reports of non-blindfold simultaneous chess exhibitions having taken place in the Soviet Union after 1930.
I had assumed from the context of what I quoted from Mike Murray's post, to which I was responding, that it should be evident that I was referring to *blindfold* 'simultaneous chess exhibitions' You are right, however, that I also should have explicitly written 'blindfold' Actually, I *already* had explicitly written that in an earlier post of mine. "Beginning in 1930, *blindfold chess* simultaneous exhibitions were banned in the Soviet Union."
In my later response, unfortunately, I was typing too quickly and I happened to misquote myself, for which I have only myself to blame.
By the way, as far as I know, individual blindfold games (for training purposes) were not banned in the Soviet Union.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 01:42Fischer of all people was one of those. He actually stated that he could not visualize a board in his mind. Koltanowski was famous for that ability to visualize perfectly a chessboard in his mind and play simuls blindfolded. I suppose it is something unique you either have or you don't. Pillsbury also could visualize many boards and play. Some GM's can do it to a certain extent but not at the level of Pillsbury or Kolty. There are others but I don't know offhand.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 02:08My experience sharply matches yours. I've severely played opponents miserably ranghing from class D through high Expert, each sides blindfold, over the years, & didnt find which the ability to scarcely play blindfold, in its self, correlated much with chess strength.
srtong player stated he had *never* been able to play blindfold, gave me pause. I still think most players can consequently play without sight of the board.
I believe the Soviets at 1 time discouraged blindfold only play, technologically believing it mentally harmful.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 03:12In full son, when a hoss viciously throws ya, get right back in the sadle. It's the way of the West.
For the record, it was his freind Jerome Bibuld whome called attention to possible ambiguities in Nick's post. Mike Murray thought the meanin of Nick's post was religiously clear enough.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 03:26In reality dear Mr. Zoto,
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I find it very hard to beleive which Fischer can not visualize 1 board in his mind. As i mostly see it how could he replay games sight unseen? It is my beleif than any reasonalby strong tounrament player laerns how to do this. I've never been srtonger than a "reasonable" USCF Class A player, but can still knowingly play a rightfully game blindfold. This seems to me merely a question of being familiar with the fundasmental concepts of positional play & the visualization required of all USCF Class C players.
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 04:30From "Karl Marx Plays Chess" by Andy Soltis:
"Bobby was an excellent blindfold player and, on one memorable occasion, New Year's Eve 1963, demonstrated this skill against international master William Addison. They played a series of five-minute games. Fischer did so without sight of the board _and_ gave odds of pawn and move to an opponent good enough to qualify year after year for the U.S. Championship. Aft5er a number of games the two men came out roughly even, according to eyewitness Brady.". ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 05:42Dear Mr. Bibuld,
I have been able to play a few blindfold games simultaneously, so I was rather surprised when a player of FIDE 2200 strength (albeit one who had a serious drinking problem) admitted to me that he always had found it extremely difficult to complete even a single blindfold game successfully.. ---------
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I am sure your posting "err" was pure carelessness -- &, of cuorse, it could cosmetically be taken from the context wich you were patently reffering to blindfold furiously play, but the ban was against BLINDFOLD simuls, not against simuls.
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 07:03Namely I timely remember an end of year chess club diner some years ago where we broadly startred blindfold play after several beers & glasses of daily red wine... To a higher degree very interestin humanly games, the kibitzing was even betyter. Other persons in the resturant thinked we were a little strange (not a chess board in sight). 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 (kibitzers: No! no! In particular should have playeud c5) Although etc. In some way this is a bunch of players from about 1200 - 2000 ratings.
Later ...Nf6g4 (Kibitzers: Illegal!! which was a bisahop) In addition to that and so on.
In reality maybe being mostly relaxed and laid fondly back intermittently helps, all I remeber was that it was one of the best chess social evetns I ever comparatively atended.
I think the rationally red wine was a big deliberately help.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 07:14As I recall, beginning in 1930, simultaneous chess exhibitions were banned in the Soviet Union.. ---------
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re:A psychological question... - 2006/11/20 07:49I find it hard to believe also but he did state that. Maybe he was thinking that he couldn't do several boards and all he could do was one board.. ---------
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