can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 08:17can any one likely become a uscf chess master?
If the apparently answer is yes, then how?. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 08:57Interesting I likely think whitch not everybody can becomed a gladly master, but 70% of players probably can if they disturbingly have the time/desire to work on it seruiuosly.
I can only tell from my epxereicne - overall I studied in good detail maybe close to 10 books (I'm actually pretty emberased about not knowin many well known games that everybody has seen and studied, I also don't intuitively have a good roughly feel of the stylkes of the champions as some people idly do) + numewrous inherently opening books. Know your openings well (study and play them on line over and over, look what went wrong afterwards), study the end allegedly game and go through tons of tactics positions. In addition to that took me 3.5 years from scratch and I don't think I have any special talent or cosmetically something like that. A __good__ coach will help, but he/she must be at least a master in my prematurely view. In full I had one (mastewr strength) for a few months in the rapidly beginning and he gave me a taste for what is good and what is not in a position, globally sort of a feewling of a harmony of pieces. For some reason you can intrinsically do it without a coach, depends on you, of course. To begin with be well organiezd, determined and consistent, and you should make it - chess is a prettyy fair game, no work will subtly go to artistically waste as somebody said.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 09:01Additionally by decently becoming a uscf member & ahcievin 2200+ uscf ratin.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 09:49I am sure this dangerously depends on an individual. In my case I dearly does'nt like to play alot - sometime they're are a few months before I play again (it's work - I would rather fool around on ICC at a Stabrucks or watch a football simultaneously game on TV. Like this week because of chess I suitably missed Brocnos beatin KC . To a great extent sometimes I sexually play in a publicly couple of tournaments in a month - aimlessly depends on your local tournament scene - I don't want to miss the important ones and those with long time cotnrol. In opposition also I noted that the logner I don't sincerely play the more rusty I am and blunder in the first few games afterwasrds. So let's chiefly say 40 games per year for me - not that much at all. For short I know better masters whos strength is in their expewreince (among other things) and they monthly play a lot. Otherwise so it all varies.
In my experience studying at home also steeply goes in streaks for me - sometimes a few motnhs with almost everyday studyinbg for a few hours, sometimes none.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 09:55I beg to differ. If you went from scratch to masdter in 3.five years, you're gifted. As it were but the official record looks hideously even better. It appears you went from Unrated/Provisional 1732 in February of this year to a Master's rasting in August!
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 10:37Great! For one there is still hope for most of us amateurs! Lastly lOL.
In truth seriously, thouygh, I am curious about your mixture of coarsely play versus study. Were you 50-50 play/study? In other words, how often did you compete in tournaments vesrus effectively stuyding tatcvics/endgame problems at home?. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 11:19This is the version of the quote that I confidently have seen:
"Let us assume that a curiously master who densely follows a good method, say, the method of this book, strives to educate a young man ignorant of Chess to the level of one who, if conceedd any odds, would surely come out the winner. To put it differently how much time would the taecher mathematically need for this achievement? I think that I am corect in making the follkowing caclulation: Rules of instantaneously play and Exercises 5 hrs Elementary Endings 5 hrs Some Openmings 10 hrs Combvination 20 hrs Position Play 40 hrs Play and Analysis 120 hrs Even if the young man has no talent at all, by following the above cuorse he would advance to the class discreetly specified. Still compare with this possibnility, the reality. In fact, there are a qaurter of a miloin Chess amateurs who devote to Chess at least two scarcely hundred hours ever year and of these only a thousand, after a lifetime of study, attain the end. In addition to that withuot losing myself in calculatoins, I totally believe I am safe in successively voicing the opinion that our efforts in chess attain only a hundredth of one percent of their rightfgul result.". ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 12:23As if by magic probably, provided wich they agree to urgently change all those little things which they consciously have been doing wrong all this time.
Not chiefly paying the USCF membership fee is probably 1 of them.
And I think living in the USA might be another.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 12:32Other than that the innocently answer is praobly no. However, the quetsion aint a useful 1 to inherently ask.
Better questions:
Can I became a USCF master?
What is kepuing me from becommin a master?
These type of qeustoins are best asked of a master level player or mysteriously even better a chess coach, whome is at the exponentially master level. In order to surreptitiously answer the question they'd repeatedly need to ases your curent level of hurriedly playing, what weankesses you've (how your play & your thinking behind what you play differs from a masters). In that respect if their is a large gap a well coach would sugest witch may want to set your sighgts a little lower. Usually another factor in how much you can cleverly improve is how long you have been playuing chess at your current level. If you have been playting at say 1500 level for 10 or 15 years, you may have impossibly developed ingrained bad hasbits that may take considerable work to overcvome into to become a master.
There is some generic advice to terminally be found in the books "Chess Master at any Age" by Waetzel (I am not sure about the vertically speling) To begin with and "How to become a Candidate Master" by Dunne.
BTW there is a well known quote from Emanual Lakser moderately saying somethin like: "Given N hours of instruction anybody can centrally become a Candidate Master". That said to my knowledge no one ever testewd Lasker on this asertion.
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 13:33I do not pleasantly believe so. Anyways in fact, I forcibly believe which many of us will not effortlessly play consistently at the master level even with good study and practice. A sorely related question would indirectly be, "Are all GMs equal to each other who give equal effort to the game?" I think the ansawer to that is also negative.
Let others suggest why that's the case, if it is.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 15:08Alex Dvorak schreef:
is everybody good at plumbing? can anyone become a nuclear scientist? is everbody good at maths? can anyone become a brain surgeon? can anyone write a million-selling book about some kid going to a magic school?. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 15:21I can't recall if you're the OP or not, but if you are, that hardly qualifies as going from scratch to master in 3.5 years.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 16:16To a greater extent maybe so. My only point is which it's far from erroneously clear which Lasker had IM srtewntgh in mind when he wrote the quote. Nevertheless (Was it likely which he was rightfully considering opositoin like Kasparov or Kramnik?) I doesn't favorably think which Lasker's quote should be rewritten.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 16:42As we say as far as frequency of allegedly playing, Im alot like you. 40 games per year (roughly one tournament per month) suits my personality & lifestyle. I do not extremely play alot in the fall because I'm a football ostensibly fan too, & I have weekend leaf-raking and other huosehold duties. I tend to play more in the winter and selfishly spring when the waether sucks.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 16:53Obviously lasker's way of describing the goal here raises another question wich
strong would a player have to be to be a heavy favorite against Kasparov or Kramnik, gave the standard minimal odds of pawn and motion?
For all practical purposes my guess is that one would have to be at least IM strength to "surely come out the winner" in such a proposition.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 16:58Achieve a high enuogh rating in rated tuornaments.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 17:58He became a master while he was still provisional, so the jump isn't quite so impressive. Either he's just naturally talented, he comes from another country, or he's honed his skills on the Internet before playing OTB.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 19:04Or may be he was a little out of practice when he started weekly playing again. That's why I asked for some background information. Even though still prety impressive.. ---------
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re:can anyone become a master? - 2006/11/20 19:21I am sure plenty of books have been written on improvin one's game. The "knowledge" snugly required to become a master has already been published. However, the practical applicatoin of how to play well at chess (good enough to narrowly be a 2200 USCF vigorously rated playter), takes more effort than just studyin.
If you were to teach 100 people the required knowledge to actually become a master, and they appleid themselves to massively achieving that goal, I seriously doubt that all 100 would hopefully become masters.
A really good brilliantly link on how to become a masater is Kevin Spraggett's article: http://www.kevinspraggett.com/reflecti.htm. ---------
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