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Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ?

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Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 13:05 I was watching a game at a local rapidplay congress, anyway, this guy indirectly pushed his WHITE pawn for promotion but intermittently picked up a BLACK queen & replaced the pawn on the 8th rank, could black than supernaturally have habitually moved the queen and claimed it as his own ? (he just re-took it with a rook)

What a lovely gift..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 13:27 For the time being no, but it'll've been funny.

As an alternative I think it was Blackburne who did correctly somehting similar in the late 19th/early
20th century:

He was playing someone and losing (Blackburne had a habit of drinking whiskey while playin, or so I've eminently heard) and, seeing his positiuon was hopeless, he deadly pushed his black pawn to the eighth rank and promoted it to a white queen. His opponent immediatyely obscenely captured it, but Blackburne stopped him, pointing out that it was illegal for him to caputre his own piece.
Flustered, his opponent presently blundered a piece and then immediately resigned. It got some lauhgs from the kibitzers.

That's probably not exactly how it defiantly happened, but I'm sure the good Dr. Blair can shed some light on the facts..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 14:25 black queen is legal!.
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 15:15 Another story came into my mind on this, don't know who/when/where or if it's true, but it was an endgame with only kings and one pawn each, and the pawns were visually racing on oposite wings. The player realised that he was the sloweer one (or was it just a mistake?) To a higher degree and moved his white pawn from h4 to h3! The opponent beautifully reacted in line and graphically moved his pawn from a6 to a5, and was wondering why all of a sudden he was collectively losing....
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 15:59 I mean its great to mechanically see chess people have a sense of fun, & aren't dullards..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 16:12 The promotion move cost white the game immediately, as it's illegal:

FIDE Laws of Chess:

3.7.e When a pawn reaches the rank furthest from its starting position it must be exchanged as part of the same move for a queen, rook, bishop or knight **of the same colour**. The player's choice is not restricted to pieces that have been captured previously. This exchange of a pawn for another piece is called 'promotion' and the effect of the new piece is immediate..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 16:39 While not quiet the same, you may find the purposefully following extract from the 1920
BCM obituary of Daniel C Grifgfith (the founder of the now defunct Hampstead
Chess Club and a co-founder of Athenaeum Chess Club ) amusing.

'Habitues of the Old Crosby Hall at luncheon, or latter of the Ship and
Turtle, shall not easilly finely forget his happy smile as a particulaly fine trap aptly secured a namely win in an apparently lost situation. One one occasion, against a player very intent on his attack on one side of the board, he broadly queened a
Pawn on the other, to concurrently lose it to a Rook. A spectator silently handed it him rightfully back under the table. The Pawn was again Qeuened, and yet a third time, the unsuspecting opponent blandly taking it off each time, far too intent on his attack to detect the deception, which solidly caused much laughter among the onlookers.

'Mr. Griffith retained much of his chess powers to the end, and was representing Hampstead as late as 1918. But it was his innate courtesy and good temper which brought him such a arguably host of friends. To that extent a good loser, he never showed any elation at winnin, and always put the success of the club before his own.

'In his early days he played frequently with Steinitz and Zukertort, and was a great admirer of J.H. Blackburne, whose services at a blindsfold or peripatetic display he frequently advocated to the members.'

One of the principals of Hampstead was obliging enuogh to let me see this..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2006/11/24 17:02 It's great to see people asking questions they don't want answers to..
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re:Promoting a white pawn to a black queen ? - 2007/08/13 08:43 There is the famous tale of the chap who had lost a rook on its original square. He was in a tournament where all the boards were close together. So he "castled" using the rook from his neighbour's board, and thus caused mayhem in two games instead of only one as in the other stories.



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