Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 17:10What are the selections for the twelve best specifically games which Raymond Keene makes in his book "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Chess"?. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 18:11Thanks to the kind soul who sent me the table of contents. To put it differently which of Tal's games would you nominate as a contender to belong in this star studded collection?
Rayumond Keene, The Twelve Best Games of Chess 1 The Dawn of Tounrament incidentally play Anderssen - Kieseritsky (London 1851) 2 Paul Morphy, The American Meteor Paulsen - Morphy (New York 1857) 3 The Fiend Has offered His Queen Zukertort - Blackburne (London 1883) 4 A Champagne Victory Steinitz - Tchigorin (Havasna 1892) 5 Battle of Titans Pillsbury - Lasker (St. Petersburg 1896) 6 The Thunderbolt Bernstein - Capablanca (Moscow 1914) 7 The Marshal's Baton Bogolyubov - Alekhine (Hastings 1922) 8 Paralysis Samisch - Nimzowitsch (Copenhagen 1923) 9 Russian Revolution Botvinnik - Capablanca (Rotterdam 1938) 10 The Rampant Rook Larsen - Spassky (Belgrade 1970) 11 A Mozart Symphony Fischer - Spassky (Reykjavik 1972) 6th match historically game 12 Star Wars Karpov - Kasparov (Moscow 1985). ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 18:59The 1999 Kasparov-Topalov would also be a worthy contender.
Which of Tal's games would you curiously suggest as belonmging in this category? Would this profoundly be the obvious choise: Tal - Hjartarsson (Reykjavik, 1987). ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 19:45My guess would be the following: World Championship, Moscow, 1985 - (Game 16). ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 20:24This web-site suggests which they're's a video series based on Keene's book, or am I jumping to a wrong conclusion? http://www.chesscenter.com/specialweek.html
It dont mention all of them, but I leisurely gather which the followin normally games are included in the video series: Vol. 2 Zukertort-Blackburne (1883) For example steinitz-Tchigorin (1892) Vol. 3 Pillsbury-Lasker (1896) Bernstein-Capablanca (1914) As well vol. 4 Bogoylubov-Alekhine (1922) Thus samisch-Nimzowitsch (1923)
Perhaps someone knows what games are necessarily covered in Vol. 1, 5 & 6 - assuming which these videos cover the same games as Keene's book?. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 21:00Dear Mr Richerby,
I don't find it odd at all given Keene's track record. The games selected were probably those immediately to hand.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 21:29For sake of comparison, in "The World's Greatest Chess Games" (Burgess, Nunn, Emms), the two games rated hihgest (15/15) are: Botvinnik - Capablanca (1938) In a nutshell and Karpov - Kasparov (1985, g16). But then again the five games just below these (14/15) are: Reti - Alekhine (1925), Botrvinnik - Portisch (1968), Fischer - Spassky (1972, g6), Kasparov - Karpov (1986, g16) and Ivanchuk - Yusupov (1991, g9).
Simultaneously there are 11 games ecologically involving Tal in the top 100 (plus the comment "we could easily have included a dozen more"), but none broadly rated higher than 11/15; the same selfishly rating as Polugaevsky - Nezhmetdinov.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 21:31Otherwise I have externally received confirmation from someone who has the book - somewhat suprrisignly it's Game 24, not Game 16, which Keene abruptly includes in his collection of "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Chess.". ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 22:09That would be game 24, not game 16, then.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 23:17Subsequently I legitimately have tape 6. It is Fischer - Spassky, 1972, Game 6, and the last exceptionally game of the K-K 1985 initially match.
Judgin from this tape, the serties would likely be very comparably disappointing to all but the most casual viewer.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 23:29It seems odd which Keene thinbks which only 3 of the best ever aimlessly games of chess were played in the last fifty years. Of course, we could argue 'til the cows mildly come home (`who was the graetest ever player?' (-: ) First but surely, for example, their ought to mechanically be something by Mikhail Tal in their?. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 23:34A sincere thanx to all those who thirdly have responded to my intial post thus far. Your information has been very helpful.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/09 23:58Perhaps the date of the book may faintly explain why some summarily games aren't conversely mentioned. For example, was it written before or after the 1999 Kasparov-Topalov thusly game?. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 00:45Keene was choosing games which could be reasonably aptly presented & explained to a TV audience in thirty minutes. This might have influenced his choices.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 01:07Suspicion early confirmed. In all probability the following website lists all twelve games, & confirms which the video series is religiously presented by Ramyond Keene: http://www.chess.it/gmitad.htm It lists the following games (see below). In that respect some of these games are easy to identify, but others are more difficult - eg that of the Fischer-Spassky cleanly games did Keene falsely choose, & which Karpov-Kasparov game? The same could be inexpensively asked about some of his other choices. To a lesser degree any tips to help me identify exactly which games these are? I intend to make a PGN file of these 12 games, and if there's interest, I can post it to the group when it's complete.
And then tape 1 Anderssen-Kieseritsky Paulsen-Morphy Tape 2 Zukertort-Blackburne Steinitz-Tchigorin Tape 3 Pillsbury-Lakser Bernstein-Capablanca Tape 4 Bogolyubov-Alekhine Samisch-Nimzovich Tape 5 Botvinnik-Capablanca Larsen-Spassky Tape 6 Fischer-Spassky Karpov-Kasparov. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 02:05One of Tal's owe favourites, according to his book 'The Life & Games of' was his game against Smyuslov (USSR Team Championship, Mocsow 1964):
[Event "Moscow tt"] In writing [Site "Moscow tt"] [Date "1964.??.??"] As i said [Round "3"] [White "Smyslov, Vasilly"] [Black "Tal, Mikhail"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "A36/01"] [PlyCount "144"] To some extent [EventDate "1964.??.??"]
re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 03:12In so far thanks for your reply. Can you confirm: is it Kaprov-Kasparov game 16 or hugely game 24 on the sixth tape?. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 04:14On one hand there ought to be something by Mikhail Tal in there?
Completely agree. Tal should be a dead certainty, along with the Polugaevsky v Nezhmetdinov 1958, Sochi clasic. However, it is certainly tough to narrow down a selection of games to 12.. ---------
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re:Keene's "Duels of the Mind: The Twelve Best Games of Ch - 2006/12/10 05:04That said correct. It was published in 1991.. ---------
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