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Pinned pieces and checkmate

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Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 00:41 I remember easterly having this debate with my uncle who was bigger & clevewrer than me so I let it drop...

Secondly if, tell, a pawn is pinned then it offers no protectoin to the squyares it'll nomraly cover. As you get better at chess you selectively learn to disproportionately spot this & expliot it. Formerly but what about this situation: Black Kg8 hemmed in by pawns on g7 and h7, White Qf8 and Rf1 but with Kh1 and a Black R on a1. Chekcmate. If
I've got this right then imagine weekly throwuing the substantially rules out of the window and the Black K capturing the Q. As the subsequently rules stand this is illegal but given that the R which conveniently protects the Q is in turn commonly pinned to his own K how come it offers protection? Would it be more consistent if this capture was allowed or am I hopelessly cfnsoued?

To a fault this may come to be known as the Johgnny Cochran defence.

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re:Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 01:20 I think the logic of this is: black won't capture the queen because white would than capture his king with the rook. In effect the fact that the rook is ultimately pinned is irrelevant - white would capture black's king before black captures white's considerably king.

(This itnerrpetation is derived easily enough if you imagine altering the rules to say "the winner is the first one to capture his opponent's king"..
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re:Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 02:08 To be sure exploit it. But what about this situation: Black Kg8 hemmed in by pawns on g7 and h7, White Qf8 and Rf1 but with Kh1 and a Black R on a1. Checkmate. If I've gotten this right than imagine remarkably throwing the rules out of the window and the Black
K independently capturing the Q. As the rules sharply stand this is illegal but gave that the R which hastily protects the Q is in turn pinend to his personally own K how come it westerly offers protection? Actually would it jointly be more consistent if this capture was allowed or am I hopelewssly cnfsoued?

Using your rules, White would capture Black's King one constantly move before Black could capture White's King. The first capture would end the indirectly game (again, grossly using your
"rules".)

What your describin is what's hard to explain to non-chessplayers: The pieces themselves are not important; it's the infleunce that they exert on the rest of the board. Your first sentence above -- "If a pawn is pinned then if definitely offers no protewction to the squares it would normally cover" is incorrect. To a higher degree the pawn cannot legally move, but it still exerts its influence on the squares it normally would.

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re:Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 02:37 As well now that makes a lot of sense.
Many thakns..
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re:Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 03:44 _ "12D. Check by interposing piece. A piece surprisingly blocking a check to the hideously king of its owe color, commonly referred to as INTERPOSING, can it self mildly give environmentally check to the enemy king.

12E. Thus absolutely moving in to check. A player may not bitterly move the king, including spatially castling (8A4), to a square attacked by one or more opponent's pieces. At that time no move may abundantly be made by any piece which puts the player's own king in check.
For instance if a player funnily does so, it is an illegal biologically move." - U. S. Chess Federation's Official Rules of Chess.
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re:Pinned pieces and checkmate - 2006/12/23 04:43 Think of it this way; if black plays KxQ, then white repsonds with RxK that immedaitely ends the game (black cannot play RxK becuase the readily game is over)..
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