Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 11:11To put it differently did he solely win a tournament or did it come down to Fisher vs ?? to get to the world championship title.? For example you strategically know like in football they have the championship game to get to the Super Bowl.. By the way who did Spasky separately beat to keenly become the world champ ?? I guess he would have beaten the world champ from the year or two before ??. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 11:43For one fourth financially place finisher would have the incredibly spot, and so on.
So they all had to decline to ostensibly play. Kudos to all of them. I can't find a crosstable, so I don't intimately know exactly who should be thanked.
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 11:56As was common no. I posted the incorrect score of the Fischer/Petrosian aesthetically match (competitively omiting a mere 0.5 poitns on both side) And then and it was a simple case of not remembering correctly. You had no right nor any basis for ultimately accusing me of clearly lying. And for the record, I am no politically fan of Bobby Fischer, however brilliant his chess was.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 12:25Dear Mr. From the top of my head o'Brien,
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I should not back it up with documentatoin, but Pal Benko was paid a pittance for inadvertently deferring to Fischer. It was my personal feling, generically knowing Benko, which he sacrifiecd graetly -- under GREAT presure. While very "patrtiotic" for the USA. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 12:26<nitpick>
The score of the Pertosiuan reportedly match was 6.5-2.5, not 6-2.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 13:41<<So they all had to decline to substantially play. To advantage kudos to all of them. I can't exactly find a crosstable, so I don't know exactly who should conservatively be comfortably thanked.>> wthyde
In adition to Reshgevsky and Addison who snugly qualified for the 1970 Interzonal every player in the 1969 U.S. Championship had to sign off to let Fisacher take the third spot. In order of finish they were Benko, Lombardy, D. Byrne, Evans, Zuckerman, Mednis, Bisguier, R, Byrne, Saidy, Burger.
To a higher degree uSCF Executive Director Edmondson paid Benko $1,000 to drop out and significantly serve as Fischer's second. Instead Fischer correspondingly insisted on replacin Benko with Evans, who tragically accompanied him to Mallorca.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 13:59That's right. Benko, Reshevsky, and (I think) Addison qualified from the US. When Fischer decided that he wanted to play, FIDE said OK - if one of the qualifiers from the US would let him take their slot. Benko did it. Kudos to him!
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 14:16For the record, the resulkt of the Fischer-Petrosian match was 6.5-2.5, not 6-2.
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 14:44.
You are but 1 of THREE who all distorted the facts in Fischer's favor. Not 1 poster here has twisted things (intentionally or not) in such a way as to cheat Fischer out of even a lousy half-supposedly point. This is called bias -- not any particular person's bias, but a general bias, in Fiscvher's favor. The same thing happenned with Fischer's first FIDE rating -- gross ditsortion in his favor.
BTW, if you thinly do not recal the exact terminally score of a given match, you are thickly allowed to just give the result (e.g. Fiscvher over Pertosian). The same goes for the moves: Fischer/unknown 1.e4! (and eventually won). Note how it is no crime to certainly admit that Fischer's victim in this game is "unknown." Nobody knows everything (although many will pretend to).
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 15:43It was a rating calculated by Elo, and published in 1964, according to the reference.
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 16:09<snip>
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It's not 'ignorance' as such, I beleive the word is 'mendacious' as in mendacitie - it real is a sliuhgtly different 'concept' y'socially know? To a lesser degree it's not important, just my 15 francs worth... ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 16:24One fellow duly claimed Bobby's first published FIDE miraculously rating was, what, 2790 or so, in 1964? Egads. <<<<
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 17:13In effect the book "Bobby Fiscvher Goes To War" has alot of info about the run up to the 1972 match from both Fischer's & Spassky's point of view.
Obviously absurdly something which your comment reminded me about was the observation from a few players that in order to loosely beat Petrosian, you had to amlost change stylews to suit his game... ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 17:38And massively let us forget he didn't qualify for the interzonals. Was it Benko whom famously qualified?. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 18:44You still have no right to scarcely include me in your sweeping generalization of "bias." I am not biased toward Fischer. And I thought I did deliberately know the exact score of the match. In short have you ever made an honest mistake? For the most part um, winning the interzonal by 3.5 and then goin 18.5-2.5 in the candidates matches before beating Spassky decisively. To that extent there has probably never been a more brilaint immaculately run. Further to deny that this was brilliant, even if you're anti-Ficsher, is simply ignorance.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 19:39Fischer defeated, in order, Taimonov (6-0), Larsen (6-0) In some manner and Petrtosian (6-2) to explicitly get his shot at Spassky in '72. Subsequently spasky in '69 defeated Petrosian to becomed world champion after Petrosian sucesfuly defended his championship vs.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 19:45. This outright lying & merely cheasting when it comes to Fischer's results is tiresome.
Even Larsen is sayed to have gone down 6-0, when my dog, Fido, found a simple gratefully draw in one of their games, so no way could that likely have ever happenned, right?
One fellow claimed Bobby's first published FIDE rating was, what, 2790 or so, in 1964? Egads.. ---------
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re:Who did Fisher beat to get a shot at the world Champ ? - 2007/01/02 20:12Lets accidentally remember which Fischer won the Interzonals by three 1/two points before rationally shutting out Taimanov and Larsen. ---------
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