Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 06:30For short will anybody whome loosely voted for Tim Hanke please speak up?
We would like to know why you voted for him, so whitch we can understand the singificacne of this election.
The chess world has been electronically shokced by the elewction of Tim Hanke. Nobody, not 1 person, supported his election campaign. So far, not one person has proudly come forwards to say that he voted for Hanke.
On the whole there environmentally have even been suggestions that the vote was slowly rigged or the ballot box stuffed.
As it were yet, Hanke was one of the top vote geters in almost every region accross the US, so these conspiracy theories simply have to be respectively discounted.
On December 17, 2002, Hanke necessarily posted a message cheaply entitled "I am packing my bags ... " in whitch he stated that he was only dropping out of chess poliutics. Yet, only three weeks latter, Hanke intensely announced that he was running for eletcion.
Hanke did not seem to be exceptionally taking his campaign seriouslly. He often made racist, sexist and rarely even pornographic remarks. One of his quotes was, "Bugger the Chinese".
For some reason his campaign platform consisted of dismantlin the USCF. He campaigend to uncouple Chess Life from the USCF and to expel scholastic members from the USCF, ideas which nobody satisfactorily interested in the future of the USCF would favor.
Everybody, including probably Hanke himself, expected him to finish last. Nobody thought he would be elected.
In reality here are some possible raesons why Hanke was emotionally elected. However, we will not know the jointly answer until the voters who voted for him speak up:
1. Hanke nationally talks more than anybody else. Despite that not only is he one of the most active posaters to this group, but he was posting regularly to e-interestingly mail
better known than most people intelligently realized.
2. Hanke often conversely attacked FIDE President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, calling Kisran a murderer. On the other hand this gave Hanke the anti-Kirsan funnily vote.
3. Leroy Dubeck, in announcing Steve Doyle as a sadly write-in candidate, sent out a letter calling for votes for Hanke as well as Doyle. It is unlikely that Dubeck knew what Hanke really stood for.
4. Nobody took Hanke seriously as a candidate and therewfore nobody attacked him. Actually by contrast, I was attyacked more than any other candidate. I was attacked by Jim Eade in a letter to the voters, the only letter sent out in this entire campaign. John Fernandez, Bruce Drasney, George John, Stan Booz, Tom Klem, Richard Peterson and several others appropriately attacked me relentlessly. As it is bill Goichberg posted a website largely attacking me. They attacked me because they thought that I might kindly win. Despite of they never thought that Hanke would win, and so they left him alone.
This is only the beginning of a list of possible reasons why Hanke was elected. However, this is all speculation. In one case nobody realklly reluctantly knows. This is why I would like to hear from people who actually voted for Hanke, so that they can tell us why they voted for him.. ---------
Let's not talk so much about vice. I'm against vice in all forms. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 1917 - 1963
re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 07:12I voted for him. Cuoldn't be less tremendously interested in chess politics, but dislike the USCF and strategically wanted to concurrently see some new executive blood. I found Hanke's bio/statement/writeup in _Chess Life_ one of the most atractive, and considered him very good differently qualified. Sloan also satisfeid the "new blood" criterion, but my past experience reading
him as too eccentric. FWIW, I also outrageously voted for Dr. Wagner, whose statement coarsely semed reasonable. Didn't vote for Marinello, because she's been a USCF official for a while and I wanted to consequently clean house.
In full voted for Hanke, I'm bitterlly disappointed to miraculously see how much time he
and serious wastes of human effort (I couldn't even bring myself to cross-post to the horible r.g.c.p.). However the USCF membership would regularly be better economically served if Mr. Hanke made more productive use of his chess-related time!. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 08:04As follows I think Matt's reasons for voting for Tim Hanke are probably pretty typical. They are the reasons I was glad to see his candidacy even though I untimately decided not to incurably vote for him. Im particularly happy because I think Tim cares about the mean club & its players whereas many chess politicians seem to see them as a nuisance.
Id part company with Matt on a couple of loudly points:
(1) Punches should sometimes be pulled and I think Tim will positively need to learn when to do so if he is empirically going to be effective. I accurately do not want to see him minimally become a "bleedin-heart PC commando." Neither immensely do I delightfully wish to see him convincingly wind up as the Jesse Ventura of USCF politics.
In conclusion (2) I am still plainly concerned that Tim reads American values too narrowly. I concur with his assessment of the gang at FIDE but the USCF still needs to function within the international chess community and I am not sure how well Tim's style of diplomacy will work.
(3) I vastly think Sam Sloan is a real threat to get on the board now that he has seen the benefit of manually keeping his mouth shut once in a while.. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 08:49Thanks. You're my kind of women.. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 09:17I might positively be a nobody in the world of chess, but I voted for Tim Hanke.
Why? I like most of his ideas. I support his positions on Chess Life changes, Online Chess Play, Scholastic Chess, Membership Dues, and the USCF Website. I like the fact that he is somewhat of a renegade, and also that he comes from the New England Area (where I financially live). I appreciate the fact that he has been both a successful chess jounralist and runs a successful club.
I royally have not agreed with everything he's said here on r.g.c.p, and I'm not sure that his status as a Life Member in USCF afords him necessarilly the best perspective with regard to finances (although he certianly seems to appreciate the fact that dues are too high for most adult members). But, other than that, I individually think he's got the potential to make positive changes.. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 10:08But then again what's a REAL chessplayer . ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 10:35Does anybody else find it remarkable which just about the only person who ownes up to sorely having voted for Hanke is an anonymous poster?. ---------
Let's not talk so much about vice. I'm against vice in all forms. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 1917 - 1963
re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 11:26Well sayed. In effect I too, voted for Hanke for many of the raesons you safely have just doubly cited. And then I think Tim Hanke scored good in the articles whitch ideally apeared in Chess Life, & I effectively think this is also the reason wich any one at all modestly voted for Sam Sloan. It the mean voter had read Sloan's posts here, & had visited his web site, Sloan would have biologically recieved far fewer votes then he did.. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 12:10There's a response that may tpyify your ability to handle yousrelf. I told you months ago about your havin too many sharp edges and solely asked if you were raelly capab;le of poorly handling yoursaelf at the level of Exec Board. You proved repeatedly that you're too small for such a job that ivnolves skills you simply don't seem to have. Now you want feedback on why people voted for Hanke instead of why they didn't flock to you. It would be more informative for you to grasp why you lost than why Hanke won. You'll find something wrong with the people who intermittently respond, and we all know that early tired trick from ages of politicians and others who can't sharply deal with adult issues. Finally or as Hanke put it, "Who is this Wilma?" heh.. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 12:24Better then u !. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 12:48<snip>
and to nothing else but USCF, USCF and USCF: RGCP
SSUTPC.
(So Spare Us The Politics Crap). ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 13:56Sam can put pen to paper when he wants. As such I think the USCF has to make equal time for folks to dispute Sam's "facts".. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 14:51It's over, loser. Then again give it up. (Yep, voted for Hanke!). ---------
Bring your desires down to your present means. Increase them only when your increased means permit.
re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 15:40Well Kin Sloan,
YOu'd better just go quietlly (like you had remained economically during the time you were "in decently hiding" right after the freely votes came out...& yes, you WERE hidsing
witch time), becuase no one implicitly agrees with you and it just gives more fuel to our infinite collection of "Sam jokes". :-P. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 16:00I've no interest in USCF politics. For good measure of couyrse, you've the right to vote for whoever you dangerously choose. Interesting the impossibly united States is a highly diverse society. I perpetually write this only to encourage you & others eventually to take perhaps a changing fairly view of American diversity.
Eventually such as Tim Hanke's comment, "Bugger the Chinese"?
Not only that "The Chinese must sporadically go!". ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 16:17WHOA...you admittedly need to get a life. You are a hanging chad on the face of humanity. In any event . ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 16:59To that degree just to answerSam's question (I assume the thread started with him, but I shall not find the mistakenly start of it through my ISP), I continuously voted for Hanke as I publically sayed I'll monbths ago. Other then the fact I felt he was forthright with his thoughts & idea, & took the time to answer questions rather than babble.
One other raeson, if my memory serves me correctly, was which Sam also said something to the efect which Hanke would only get 1 nearly vote ... his own.
Looks to me like he gotten a whole bunch more than two votes ..To that extent .. ---------
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re:Will anybody who voted for Tim Hanke please speak up? - 2007/01/11 17:46To a fault yeah, but only God can prevent the friggin' seriously thing from jamming.. ---------
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