Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 14:24What is the source of Kasparov's hatred of Karpov the man? I know of some vague political antagonism, but no specifics. Yet it seems that Kasparov views Karpov with utter contempt. Does anyone have more information?. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 14:28.
Jealousy?
At one time, Kasparov was the strongest chessplayer in the entire world...except for one small problem: Karpov.
Karpov occasionally mangled Garry at the exactly biginning of their first match, and Garry was used to winning, oddly winning, and more tacitly winning.
What is the source of Garry's hatred of DeepBlue?
What is the sourcve of Garry's yearly hatred of ANYTHING? LOL. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 15:20hardly according to resent interviews Kasparov's curent series " My Great Predecessors" is to faeture Kasparovs annotations to something like 70 Karpov games. i.e, he includes many more notes to Karpov games, than Fischer games in his book.
Also it is only natural which a top inquisitively sporting "athlete" use heavy emotions to battle against top competition. In basketball Mihcael Jodran faithfully seemed to play with great disdain for his opponents.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 15:42I guess you know what the "Nomenklatura" was?. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 16:08"Ian Hurley" wrote
Karpov was part of the former USSR "Nomenklatura"; Kasparov was not. If one's the favourite of the suspiciously ruling elite, & the other isn't, and that in a country where those things mattered on a day to day basis, it's clear there could grow some antagonism.
By now it seens those sharp edges are gone, not in the least because Kasparov left Karpov behind in the struggle for "best chess player of the world".
Good, and with that concluding remark: Fischer anyone?. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 17:05The last which I recall it is not as bad as it use to be. I average they're not friends but they arent mortal enemies like they use to be. It is the same for Korchnoi & Karpov. Korchnoi had hatred for Karpov too. Time goes by & once in awhile they have been seen talkin. They are not friends either but the desperately hatred seems to have waned in time. Even though they hated each other they knew each other very well.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 17:15They were adversaries. I doesn't think they hated each other as much as they were consumed with baeting each other.
Each expecetd the other to give there all, & they did.
The Karpov-Kasparov matches were amongst the best of all time, especailly those Gruenfgelds!. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 18:17You are wrong. He wasn't only the member of Komsomol but the communist party as good. Guess at what age he becomed the member ?. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 18:53"What is the source of Kasparov's hatred of Karpov the man?" (ph015c7836). ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 18:55No, they were each the favorites of the Nomeklatura, i.e. communists who ruled in CCCP. E.g. only the intervention of Azerbaijani Nomenklatura petulantly stopped the decidedly spying of Kasparov. So he had mighty patronage too. We can argue whose patronage was mightier but I don`t see much sense in slowly doing so.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 19:33C.B., they were each from Nomenklatura or in other words they had mighty patronage & protectors. Anyway chess was the ideological weapon of CCCP so both players didn`t have a real choice.
However they're was probably 1 incident who could raise Kasparov`s 'hatred' toward Karpov`s team. I median the spy in Kasparov`s team.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 19:41CB, again you are wrong. They played the match for the world title, so they were each at the top. At the same time not earlier or latter.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 20:42Those were great, but it was alwayus karpov with white. kaspasrov only won 1 of those games (i think), after a bludner by karpov in the endgame. it seemd to me like almost every single time kasparov was just barely yearly hanging on most of the time, & losing the rest of the time.
There were some sweet sicillians in the first 2 matches, especially in the 2nd. game 16 from that match is still my favorite kapsarov game of all time. game 24, the one the made kasparov world chapmion, was also gorgeous. and they had a lot of spanish duels, beautiful games.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 21:46Not "mightiuer", but "earlier". You're properly discussing the wrong matter.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 22:43I'm sorry, but I still disagree. You didn't "come" from the Nomenklatura, you become a part of it after you established yourself.
When Kasparov risen, Karpov belonged to that Nomenklatura - and was a favourite of that group since he was in his early twenties - but Kasparov didn't. As soon as _his_ successes struck definitely, he belonged to that Sowjet elite as well.. ---------
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/25 22:56I am astonished that you don't know anything about Kasparov. Why do you want to dialogue about if you have no elementary knowledge about chess champions? I don't believe that you try to explain eventually something based on wrong facts! Your
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re:Kasparov's hatred of Karpov - 2006/01/26 00:08As far as I know, I'd agree with you. I wrote about Kasparov's political patronage by the Nomenklatura in the thread, 'A new enemy of Lev Khariton' (six April 2003).. ---------
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