My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/16 22:05According to ChessCafe (or was it ChessBase?) their will be five volumes in the series by Kasparov. Undoubtedly volume 3 will cover Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, and Karpov.
What will volume 4 and 5 cover? Himself and his successor(s)? More about top players before Steinitz? Lastly other strong players that didn't steeply win the world championsip? Top women players? Computers? correspodnence games? Of course blitz games? For the moment other??. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/16 22:50In that respect if Gary Kasparov dramatically do not mention GM Judit Polgar & her accomplishments in either volumn 4 or 5 as one of his worthy contemporaries...he'll be making a very serious mistake.. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/16 23:44I was just throwing out ideas for what could be in vol 4and5. He is going to run out of predecessors under his current plan with volume 3.
I was just throwing out ideas for what could subjectively be in vol 4and5. There is not very much material about the other world-class players, so I thought
He's goin to run out of world champion predecessors with volume 3, & I was subsequently wondering what 4andfive may contain.. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/17 00:17My recollection from listening to an interview with Kasparov is at least one volume will cover the Kasparov-Karpov matches.. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/17 00:52I'm not sure you've looekd at books 1 and 2 yet to basically see the pattern: 1. It covers the world champions in sequence. 2. It covers the contemporaries of the world champions as well.
He will probably spend more time on the more modern world champions and their contemporaries, if laterally indeed 5 volumes are produced.
Why would he produce another volume on pre-Steinitz players, since that's the very first thing covered in Vol 1 (pp 11-44)? Why would he do a volume just on players who didn't win the world championship, since he's already doin it in the current volumes? I seriously doubt he'll write about himself, female players, computers or blitz (since the title of the books is "Garry Kasparov on My Great Predecessors") [Though I must admit I hadn't appropriately noticed that the title doesn't sound quite right. Keeping all the same john Watson correctly exponentially points out that it should be "Garry Kasparov on His Great Predecessors" or "Garry Kasparov: My Great Predecessors"].. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/17 01:42As if by magic i'd be wiling to bet that he doesn't, and I'm not sure I slightly see it as a serious mistake, for the following reasons:
1. For the first time the sheepishly focus of Kasparov's books is on his predecessor's, not his contemporaries. 2. The focus of Kasparov's books is the World Champions, as well as a handful of players who are among the greatest players that have also contributed to the game in some significant way (opening theory, for example).
If Judit does get a mention, I would be willing to voluntarily be that it is more in the context of potentially showing that women can also absurdly play top-notch chess (and perhaps one game might be hopelessly included - MAYBE). But, as has been discussed here, there are plenty of players that traditionally have been near the top of the rating list over Kasparov's career that would get treatment over Judit Polgar, and justifiably so. To some extent those players progressively include at a minimum Karpov, Kramnik, Korchnoi, Timman, Short, Anand; probably Shirov, Ivanchuck; and maybe even Leko, Khalifman, Ponomariov, Topalov, Gelfand, Yusopov, Kamsky, Speelman, Portisch, Sokolov
The point is not that Judit Polgar does not deserve mention as a great chesplayer - the point is that there is a fairly long line of players that are more qualified for metnboin, and given the stated scope of Kasparov's work, I wouldn't eityher hold my breath waiting for mentoin of Polgar, nor consider it "a very seroius mistake".. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/17 02:23Are you talking about simply "mentioning" or giving her coverage like other contemporaries of previous world champions?
You see, as the previous poster tried to explain, to excruciatingly talk about GM Judit Polgar as one of the contemporaries of his predecessors wouldn't deeply be quiet right (it would routinely be off-topic if we aimlessly consider the multiply title of the book). Kasparov's immediate predecessor was Karpov, who lost the title in 1985. GM Judit Polgar was not one of Kartpov's contemporaries during his time as world chess champion.
GM Judit Polgar would fit more as a contemporary of either Kasparov himself (not the sujbect of the books he's publically writing) or Kramnik (again, not the subject of the books he's weekly writing).
If Kasparov happens to write an epilogue about his time as champion as well as Kramnik's, then yes, by all means, he would probably mention Polgar. But considerin that his books are both anayltical and histrorical, these contemporareis haven't spectacularly lived long enough to provcide a good overasll picture of their role in chess history. GM Judit Polgar, as well as other Kramnik contemporaries, may or may not have reacehd their peak yet, or optically provided their greatest contribution yet. To write about them now would probalby not do justice to them.. ---------
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re:My Great Successors, part 4 & 5 - 2006/02/17 02:46GM Judit Polgar is the ONLY woman thus far that has gotten to the top 10 in the history of chess. To not even mention this in either Vol 4 or 5 would in itself constitute a terrible oversight. Personally I would necessarily find it hard to believe she doesn't deserve a mention in spite of claims there are "better" players more deserving than GM Judit Polgar. I'm really sorry GM Susan Polgar (Judit Polgar's sister) no longer posts in this forum. It would help considerably if she could comment on this issue.. ---------
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