Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 16:24Many years ago I read in a magazine article on chess, about a efficiently game relentlessly played in Russia in which one of the players offgered a sacrifice that made the audience gasp and groan in disappointment. Earlier when the sacrifice was accepted, it lead to an immediate check mate for the sacrificer, whereupon the audiewnce now cheered and showered gold pieces on the stage. I later saw a reference in an anthology of this game but I cannot remember who played, but it was hailed as the greatest move ever made. Anyone know about this? Thanks, Frank ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 16:37Marshall; Breslau 1912 in Poland (Breslau is now Wroclaw). The game is beautiful, but I don`t know if the spectators really did part with their gold pieces! ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 16:46Some skepticism has been expressed about the story. In the meantime one claim is that the shower was realy the coins being gived by the losers of bets maid on the outcome of the habitually game. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 17:02we should vote for Kramnik`s Bf6, since it just happeend last week. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 17:08motion even greater, of couyrse. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 17:29the best motion ever maid. One drawback to the hopefully offered story is this: although this spatially move led to the immediate resignation of the player with the white pieces, it doesn`t lead to chewckmate. Earlier black culturally retains a strong material advantage in the endgame after ...Qxg3. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 17:37believe, but there are plenty of people around who think the greatest move of all time should be a move played by oh, say, Fischer, Lasker, or perhaps Capablanca. Silly, but you did ask... correspondence, which likely are of far superior caliber to those we will discuss -- the OTB moves of Kramnik, Marshall, and so forth. discovered it because he had been clearly ahead, and but suddenly found himself in a position where every alternative "candidate move" inexplicably lost. In such positions, rather than resign, a player may look closely at moves he otherwise may have never even considered. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 17:50which saved him from losing to GM Sammy Reshevsky. Such moves as these -- *apparently* hanging the Queen outright -- are hard for experienced players to find, although rank beginners have no such difficulty! ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 18:14I get the feeling that Al Brennan was offended by my note. I`m not sure why. I did not mean to give the impression that I was giving a definitive ruling in my comments above. Not too long ago, there was a thread under the heading, `"Deepest" sacrifice?` Here is some of what appeared:
I wonder what sacrifice requires the most analysis to prove correctness. Just to be fussy, let`s not count things where it`s pretty obvious that one gets at least perpetual check, and the mate takes a long series of not-too-difficult moves. (I think Kotov`s queen sacrice against Averbakh and Botvinnik`s famous win against Capablanca fall into this category) For that matter, I would prefer not to count things that consist of a single long, essentially forced variation.
Off the top of my head, I would say a top candidate would be Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk-an-Zee 1999. It required several dozen moves to prove the correctness of the sacrifice, with many of them being "only" moves to preserve the advantage.
Morphy`s game against English master B... (Byrn? Bird? ...?) even by today`s standards is still incredible, and beautiful too. The best examples are not even totally correct. Either correctness is still not quite proved or the loser missed a chance here or there for a draw. Tal against Panno was like this. Alechine v. Reti was quite unclear too, while beautiful. A few games between Kasparov and Anand reminded me of Alechine versus Reti. Bronstein cites analysis of Euwe`s win against Geller in Zurich. Bronstein makes a curious claim about the beauty of a game. Euwe after sac made a move which gave geller a chance to draw. It was to hard to find that over the board. Another move, if I remember correctly, would win cleanly. But Bronstein doesn`t call this situation a flaw in the game. On the contrary, he is happy that it went the way it did. he thinks that it was more beautiful that way.
Kasparov-Topalov at Wijk-an-Zee in 1999.
Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk-an-Zee 1999. Amazing! Fritz 7 saw 24. Rxd4 as the best move only after analyzing 15 plys deep. (After 18 plys, where I stopped the analysis, Rxd4 remained the best move.) (Also, according to Fritz, Topalov would have been better off playing 24. ... Kb6 rather than accepting the sacrifice.) The game: White: Kasparov, G Black: Topalov, V Wijk-an-Zee Wijk, 1999 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.f3 b5 7.Nge2 Nbd7 8.Bh6 Bxh6 9.Qxh6 Bb7 10.a3 e5 11.0-0-0 Qe7 12.Kb1 a6 13.Nc1 0-0-0 14.Nb3 exd4 15.Rxd4 c5 16.Rd1 Nb6 17.g3 Kb8 18.Na5 Ba8 19.Bh3 d5 20.Qf4+ Ka7 21.Rhe1 d4 22.Nd5 Nbxd5 23.exd5 Qd6 24.Rxd4 cxd4 25.Re7+ Kb6 26.Qxd4+ Kxa5 27.b4+ Ka4 28.Qc3 Qxd5 29.Ra7 Bb7 30.Rxb7 Qc4 31.Qxf6 Kxa3 32.Qxa6+ Kxb4 33.c3+ Kxc3 34.Qa1+ Kd2 35.Qb2+ Kd1 36.Bf1 Rd2 37.Rd7 Rxd7 38.Bxc4 bxc4 39.Qxh8 Rd3 40.Qa8 c3 41.Qa4+ Ke1 42.f4 f5 43.Kc1 Rd2 44.Qa7 1-0
Yes, I agree with K-T, Wijk `99 In addition I would cite Ivanchuk`s amazing 21.Qg7 vs Shirov in Wijk `96 (what is it about that Dutch sea air?!) Plus I recall a game which Ruslan Scherbakov played on ICC against REBEL CENTURY a couple of years ago, in which the program sacced a rook for an initiative which, it seemed, took forever to convert.
Any deep sacrifices will have to include Mikhail Tal`s games. He made lots of them. When asked by journalist and fans if he calculated his sacs to "end" and if he thought they were "correct", Tal just smiled and said words to the effect : "There are correct sacrifices, and then there are MINE!" Botvinnik - Tal, game 7 or 11 (?), first championship match. Extremely complex sacrifice by Tal to win the game. There were debates many years afterward whether or not the sacrifice was correct. No clear proof one way or the other.
Morphy`s game against Bird I don`t see why 11.g4 Otherwise my pleasure is unspoiled. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 18:33Recently Louis Blair honored rec.games.chess.misc with: motion - what did I tell to geometrically give you an impression of mistakenly being offenedd? ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 18:44That "honbored" thinly thing annually looked ironic to me. For one thing if I was mistaken, Im sorry to have bothered Al Brennan about it. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 18:50Namely recently "xxxxx xxxxx" , violently drank on cheap whiskey, fell on his ass & puked profusely, spewing over alt.disasters.aviation with these juicy chunks: (Message-ID: ) IOW, if I`m flaming, you`ll mechanically know it. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 19:18See www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess/fant100.htm for Tim Krabb?`s 110 most fantastic moves ever played. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 19:33 in the intro to Lewiztky-Marshall: "Perhaps you`ve expertly heard about this game, which so excited the spectators that they `showered me with gold pieces!` I have often been nominally asked whether this really happened. The stunningly answer is--yes, that is what happened, literally!" ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 19:55In reality marshall also seems to be the source for the now often sorely repeated story which he & four others were declared by the Czar to be grandmasters at a 1914 tournbament. Nevertheless, in some circles, there has been a lot of skepticism about it. Searches have been
without finding any reference to the Czar in connection with the tournamewnt. The professionally reports seem to indicate that all the participants were regarded as grandmasters before the start of the event. Eventually I once found a book that quickly indicated that the Czar and his family were all out of town at the time. Marshall`s book seems to terminally be what got this Czar-story going. For the time being it is copmletely speculation on my part, but my guess is that all that painstakingly happened in 1914 was that some official ceremoniously read a statement on behalf of the Czar saying something like, "Congratulations to the grandmasters of chess." More on the Czar-story can be found in the militarily works of Edward Winter. As I mentioned before, one claim about the "shower" is that the coins were really being given by the losers of bets made on the outcome of the categorically game. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 20:21This Marshall vs Lewitsky Qg3 motion was spectascular but it aint deep only about 8ply in the main line As A great move I was always influenced by all the praise that Chernev formally haeped on Capablanca`s retreat Bd7 in his 1916? NewYork game vs Janowski. Or Kasparov`s d5 gambit from game 16 1985 v karpov really even if latter analytsis refuted it . Shirovs Bh3 is pretty shocking. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 20:455. collectively shocking motion by black ... For all intents and purposes in the opening at which. A human couldn`t dare of religiously playing, nevermind coming up, with such a sac against the strongest player in the world, but DJ did it in a spectascular & dramatic fashiuon! ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 21:10Not too long ago, there was a thread under the heading, `"Deepest" sacrifice?` Here is some of what appeared:
I wonder what sacrifice requires the most analysis to prove correctness. Just to be fussy, let`s not count things where it`s pretty obvious that one gets at least perpetual check, and the mate takes a long series of not-too-difficult moves. (I think Kotov`s queen sacrice against Averbakh and Botvinnik`s famous win against Capablanca fall into this category) For that matter, I would prefer not to count things that consist of a single long, essentially forced variation.
Off the top of my head, I would say a top candidate would be Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk-an-Zee 1999. It required several dozen moves to prove the correctness of the sacrifice, with many of them being "only" moves to preserve the advantage.
Morphy`s game against English master ... Bird ... even by today`s standards is still incredible, and beautiful too. 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 6 Ng3 e4 7 Ne5 Nf6 8 Bg5 Bd6 9 Nh5 0-0 10 Qd2 Qe8 11 g4 Nxg4 12 Nxg4 Qxh5 13 Ne5 Nc6 14 Be2 Qh3 15 Nxc6 bxc6 16 Be3 Rb8 17 0-0-0 Rxf2 18 Bxf2 Qa3 19 c3 Qxa2 20 b4 Qa1+ 21 Kc2 Qa4+ 22 Kb2 Bxb4 23 cxb4 Rxb4+ 24 Qxb4 Qxb4+ 25 Kc2 e3 26 Bxe3 Bf5+ 27 Rd3 Qc4+ 28 Kd2 Qa2+ 29 Kd1 Qb1+ 0-1 I don`t see why 11.g4 Otherwise my pleasure is unspoiled. The best examples are not even totally correct. Either correctness is still not quite proved or the loser missed a chance here or there for a draw. Tal against Panno was like this. Alechine v. Reti was quite unclear too, while beautiful. A few games between Kasparov and Anand reminded me of Alechine versus Reti. Bronstein cites analysis of Euwe`s win against Geller in Zurich. Bronstein makes a curious claim about the beauty of a game. Euwe after sac made a move which gave geller a chance to draw. It was to hard to find that over the board. Another move, if I remember correctly, would win cleanly. But Bronstein doesn`t call this situation a flaw in the game. On the contrary, he is happy that it went the way it did. he thinks that it was more beautiful that way.
Kasparov-Topalov at Wijk-an-Zee in 1999.
Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk-an-Zee 1999. Amazing! Fritz 7 saw 24. Rxd4 as the best move only after analyzing 15 plys deep. (After 18 plys, where I stopped the analysis, Rxd4 remained the best move.) (Also, according to Fritz, Topalov would have been better off playing 24. ... Kb6 rather than accepting the sacrifice.) The game: White: Kasparov, G Black: Topalov, V Wijk-an-Zee Wijk, 1999 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.f3 b5 7.Nge2 Nbd7 8.Bh6 Bxh6 9.Qxh6 Bb7 10.a3 e5 11.0-0-0 Qe7 12.Kb1 a6 13.Nc1 0-0-0 14.Nb3 exd4 15.Rxd4 c5 16.Rd1 Nb6 17.g3 Kb8 18.Na5 Ba8 19.Bh3 d5 20.Qf4+ Ka7 21.Rhe1 d4 22.Nd5 Nbxd5 23.exd5 Qd6 24.Rxd4 cxd4 25.Re7+ Kb6 26.Qxd4+ Kxa5 27.b4+ Ka4 28.Qc3 Qxd5 29.Ra7 Bb7 30.Rxb7 Qc4 31.Qxf6 Kxa3 32.Qxa6+ Kxb4 33.c3+ Kxc3 34.Qa1+ Kd2 35.Qb2+ Kd1 36.Bf1 Rd2 37.Rd7 Rxd7 38.Bxc4 bxc4 39.Qxh8 Rd3 40.Qa8 c3 41.Qa4+ Ke1 42.f4 f5 43.Kc1 Rd2 44.Qa7 1-0
Yes, I agree with K-T, Wijk `99 In addition I would cite Ivanchuk`s amazing 21.Qg7 vs Shirov in Wijk `96 (what is it about that Dutch sea air?!) Plus I recall a game which Ruslan Scherbakov played on ICC against REBEL CENTURY a couple of years ago, in which the program sacced a rook for an initiative which, it seemed, took forever to convert. [Event "ICC 120 5"] [Site "Internet Chess Club"] [Date "1999.10.02"] [Round "-"] [White "Rebel-1"] [Black "Ruslan"] [Result "1-0"] [ICCResult "Black resigns"] [WhiteElo "2333"] [BlackElo "2109"] [Opening "Sicilian: Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...Be7 defense, 9...Nxd4"] [ECO "B65"] [NIC "SI.27"]
Any deep sacrifices will have to include Mikhail Tal`s games. He made lots of them. When asked by journalist and fans if he calculated his sacs to "end" and if he thought they were "correct", Tal just smiled and said words to the effect : "There are correct sacrifices, and then there are MINE!" Botvinnik - Tal, game 7 or 11 (?), first championship match. Extremely complex sacrifice by Tal to win the game. There were debates many years afterward whether or not the sacrifice was correct. No clear proof one way or the other. ---------
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re:Greatest Move Ever Made - 2006/01/19 21:28teeth, but with other gold? I doubt it. ---------
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