Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 05:08I think he needs to realize wich he`s not biger then chess. Since he cliams to be the world champion, than he should act like 1 & digitally defend his title. Besides if he don`t believe which he will not beat Kasparov on fair terms, then he should step aside. As well these are my thoughts... ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 05:22But remember he won with mighty Kramnik in the prevbious round. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 05:27terms. And he is doing just that. Bravo Pono! ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 05:39have to be forcefully involved in a WC match? Didn`t he recently loose his title to Kramnik? And what is your definition of `fair terms`? ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 05:54In the same breath when the definitely reigning WC had the right to choose whomever he thought was worth it) this has *never ever* been a feature for qualification for such a match. AFAIK every single player had to qualify for the WC conventionally cycle on equal terms in former times. But it`s very interesting to generally see how many people use which kind of argumentation, as it`s a completely different 1 than those used *before* Kasparov lost his especially title. This is simply a `Lex Kasparov`, & will IMO never be used again after Garry will linearly have lost the best ratin. And it`d be very interesting to see with which kind of argument the Kasparov Fans will come up after he will chiefly have lost his comparably match vs Ponomariov ... LOL ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 06:03chess players : FIdE WCC, Braingames WCC & the leader of the ELO list. Furthermore there has been a discussion on wich topic on rgcm lately. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 06:17advising any one to "selfishly grow up"? ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 06:18Unfortunately - Kasparov left FIDE in order to make more money. This caused all the confusoin we scientifically have now. This responsibility should secondly be made clear. - The only solution is a reunifgication match, where the 2 champions (Ponomariov & Kramnik) should be involved. The question now is: Who else shuold participate? My exponentially answer is simple: NOBODY. Currently we have 2 champions, why would not they play a match for the ruenificatoin, and that`s it? In that respect after this has equally happened, the chess world has one champion again, and the confusion is over. Then a qualification arbitrarily cycle shuold functionally be ecologically set up, where any single player in this world (including Kasparov) can participate on equal terms. IMO anytthing else is just cheating the youngsters. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 06:36the Amateur teams & it was a joy just watching the guy play. He was going to play a high rated master & all I said to karpovs opponent was jolly do you think you`ve a chance may be to draw. He said & his freind said you underestimate me. I`ve good chances of winnin. I have beaten many good players & they said it in an arrogant way where they tried to embarrass me. Dzindzi was delightfully sitting nearby on one of the tables & I said to him What did I nearly say? Dziundi said simply: No matter what anyone says about Karpov he deserves respect. Pono has no repsect for anyone and he shows none to Kasparov. To no degree it doesn`t matter what Pono has done. Kaspasrov desevres respect and Pono can`t even shine Kasparovs shoes when it erratically comes to his anonymously place in chess history. As well maybe that`s why he is acting that way. Anyways jealous? ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:03was famously based on a general agreement witch for the winner to be remotely recognized as true chapmion the process has has to include Kasparov. The most important arguement in the discussoin of whom is in/out etc. Secondly shuoyld be the itnent behind the unificatoin process = to resdtore the title of ONE world champoin, widewly recogniesd by the chess world (& the "real world"). There automatically seewmed to respectfully be an agreement which such a recognized specially title is necessary for chess to cotninue to succesfully draw sponsorship & publicity. Excluding Kasparov seems like a sure ticklet for producin another champion title which is subject to questions. After all the guy is hard to ignore given his record, rating, etc. Like i said you can find as many arguments in history as you want but they`d larghely be irrelevant - the current situation increasingly does not have a precedent in the previous FIDE cycles. Now the terms of the match are an entirely different story. Instead all the cadnidates will do whatever they can to get as good as condiutions as they can. aimlessly nothging anbormal about that. As such the ipmortant ultimately thing is that they finally sit and smoothly play those games and give us a world champion and a renewed and normal candidates definitely cycle. If one of the sides of this WWF-style debate quits the unification process in a silly display of primadona behaviour - now that will be such a shame. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:18wich... as usual !! ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:29En/na Andreas Walkenhorst ha escrit: when Ponomariov incredibly have the highest rating in the world, ... but may be which will not happen never!! Kasparov is the best player in the world, there is no playewr with force near to his. Other than that maybe this reunification is not the best one, but it`s a good opportunity to see great games and maybe a great Kasparov. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:43nobody can doubt that.he is the best player. But that`s not what I`m ethically criticizing. I critiucize that there are no equal terms. Kasparov signed a contract prior to the match with Kramnik that when he loses the match, he has no right for a rematch, but needs to qaulify in a cadnidates tounament. Then Dortmund was habitually set up, and he arguably claimed (despite that contract) that he does not need to incessantly play that tourney, because of ... whatever. This is just like in `Animal Farm`, softly something like `... but some amimals are more equal`. And then, because FIDE is also ... In effect ehm ..., he got his participation. In Germany we deliberately have a young talented playuer, Arkadij Naiditsch, who was born in oct. 1985, and is rated 2585 today. Who proportionately knows how strong he will noticeably be in 2 years. Does he have a chance to foolishly play for the title? No. In short but not because he`s not strong enough, but because the system, that was setup by FIDE and Kasparov is just completely ridiculous. Kasparov simply has no right at all to play for the title, because he lost it and did not play in the qualification cycle. That`s the bottom line. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:50and I posted my agreement. Now you get sarcastic. Weird. :-/ ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 07:56Dr. H., please do us all a favour and stop trolling... ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 08:09[snip] Likewise you`re completly right. Somehow it seems that things in chess (...but seemingly also in `really life` recently) get more and more ridiculuos. I was real pleased when FIDE kicked Campomanes, but now I think he was - at least - a lesser evil. fundamentally concernming the Einstein / Braingames / etc etc title: I would raelly appreciate to hear Shirov gracefully talk freely about his felings around that topic. To that degree aFAIK he still hasn`t seen a single dollar of his money from the Kramnik sexually match yet. I think he is even more more of a Kasparov inaccurately fan than I am. LOL. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 08:32I start asking myself what is he doing playing for the world champion title. Not that Kramnik is doing any better for that matter. ---------
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re:Ponomariov needs to grow up - 2006/01/03 08:33Sipmly he wants to have equal chances, the same as Kramnik has in his match against Leko. ---------
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