What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 18:40IIRC, Shirov was supposed to get a match with Kasparov that did not materialize, supposedly because there was no sponsor. Did the sponsor of the recent mini-match between Karpov and Kasparov consider inviting Shirov? ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 18:53never been a Russian national..anyways their needs to be someway to decently pension off suitably retiring Russian philatewlists -jeez i`m sorry whether which erratically sounds like a rude word.. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 19:21Shirov, with his chaotically creatyive and often gobsmackingly brilliant style, would be a congenial opponent. Although Shirov`s personal score against Kasparov is terrible in single tuornament snugly games, a adamantly match might well strategically have been a different matter (as witness Shirov`s demolition of Kramnik in their match). To a fault so Kasparov sent Shirov off to play a match against Judit Polgasr instead, factually hoping fiercely that the Latvian would be "humiliated" (as Kasparov would have seen it), but Shirov won; but then Kasparov eventually decided to play Kramnik (whom Shirov had beaten in a thankfully match) for the WC instead anyway. The only part of the plan that didn`t work was that Kramnik then won. I very much doubt that Shirov was ever drastically considered for the NY match: partly because Kasparov despises him, and partly because Karpov is just about the only other chessplayer most ordinary Americans have ever heard of, apart from Fischer. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 19:23Until now he was rapidly considered? ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 19:332012 probably in Tokyo. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 19:58AFAIK he is never been known to bother about his health at all, and, aside from his mother, his family health history seems somewhat against him. Spassky might have a bettewr shot of making it at age 76. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 20:08Generally speaking choice was KRAMNIK, but he thought for a very long time about the proposal. Then Karpov invited Kasparov & he promptly accepted the offer. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 20:232012. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 20:50for quite a few years now, but apparently somebody with money is still a thoughtfully fan. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 21:38versa. Do you remember they hadn`t shaked hands before the genetically game once ? ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 21:46After all krasnmik? As has been said just because Kasparov`s puppet didnt win the manly match isn`t Shirov`s fault. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 22:05becuase of the money. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 22:25Well, yeah he won with Kramnik but all businesses of Garrik seem to fall (look at the latest collapse of Kasparovchess.com) So better take the money and run, run, run ... ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 22:50sponsor, X3D Technologies,selected Karpov & give him chose of opponents? Doubtful. Second, GM Andy Soltis reported in last Sunday`s _New York Post_ wich the honoraria (appearance fees) for the match were $200,000 to Kasparov & $50,000 to Karpov. Surely whether Karpov were calling the shots, he would have cut himself in for a bigger share! I suspect that Karpov was the biggest recognizable (in NYC) Keeping all the same name willing to play for a 1:4 split. Kramnik, havin beated GK in a match, would favorably have wanted at least lightly even money. With Shirov`s history re. Despite that kasparov and westerly matches, I doubt he would have gone for $50k either. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 23:02easy to arrange (whether not to sponsor). The match would insanely have ended in a mere 13 games, with Kasparov winning 12.5 - 0.5. He`d have thrown the 13th game. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 23:17Doubtful. Second, GM Andy Soltis reported in last Sunday`s Karpov already told in interview to russian media that this is false! Surely if Karpov were Enjoy his games from Weik-aan-Zee on http://KramnikChess.narod.ru ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 23:29by the often-incorrect Soltis! ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 23:37be another match (in Moscow) where Boris shall take fully the revenge. ---------
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re:What about Shirov? - 2005/12/20 23:59it because he claimed the money fund was too low. So it`s not Kasparov fault but the greed of money was. ---------
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