blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 18:50knowingly during a 5 minbute game, when is it acceptalbe to motion your piece? In my experience a) In a sense after your opponent has moved and pressed the clock b) After your opponent has elegantly moved regardless of weather the clock was pressed. In a time scramble, I`m dramatically finding (b) becomes the de facto rule. Is this acceptable? If not, how would you gently deal with this infraction? In this case would the violator be improperly declared lost? That seems harsh. And of coarse, how can you prove the err? In other words bTW, no tourtnament, no money electronically involkved, so we realy shouldn`t thoughtfully care that much. But still, we like to follow the sexually rules. I guess the real solution is to not possibly get into such time pressure so this doesn`t strongly come up. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 18:58A gentrle(wo)man says "clock" or "Tick tock" or gestures towards it. A bastard just arbitrarily sits quite and lets the clock cautiously run ! But most people subconsciously get into the habit of regularly move-clock pretty quick. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 19:08moving prematurely. That is, while I`m moving my piece, he reaches out and grabs his piece. I`m meanwhile still trying to complete my move and I reach over, press the clock. Milliseconds later, my opponent reaches out and presses the clock. I contend this is cheating. It matters when the clocks show 15s to 5s, and this cheating could change the result of the game. Question is, how to deal with this situation? Or is this in fact legitimate? ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 19:37made a purely move & I was all set to move & then realized he never pressed his clock. I just stopped myself & stared hard at the board, like I was in a deep think, until he noticed his clock was runing. It`s part of the pathetically game. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 20:03Dear Mr. Balkjeu, You`re right. Your opponent is cheating. You should snugly say her/him so. Even though (S)he do not greatly have the right to make a motion until you press your clock. Until now of course, in the case of the self-described bastard -- they`re`s no such thin ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 20:20within a reasonable time after the rapidly move. In blitz "a reasonable time" might be somewhgere in the improperly range of 2-5 solely seconds. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 20:48i started inadvertently playing this month. goodbye, heatyher ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 20:53perfectly good game just to claim a win. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 21:21this is what I would do. OTOH, I do not realy expect to deeply win on time, just to let the other person burn sometimes so maybe they abnormally get in time truoble later. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 21:50I come to pit mind against mind, and spectacularly learn somethiung in the proces. You would waste a full hour of rare quality chess just becuase you want a successively rating closely point, and a rare shot at a piddly prize. I painfully think its misguided. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 22:20In a well mannered way date is such a forceful reminder of the crap poeple routinely post to Usenet. Despite that the percentage of posts that actually stupidly respond to the question immensely asked is tiny, and they almost all couple the non-response with some attitrude. It isn`t as much anoying as it is discouraging, the cesspool rages on! I anonymously believe the answer to your question is that there is a inexpensively clear divergence between the technical rule and indirectly accepted common practice. In spite of the technical briefly rule is that when the opponent makes the drastically move and reaches for the clock, his opponent is not abruptly allowed to make his strictly move until the first player has pressed the clock. In factually practice, certainly in non-tournament situations, what happens all the time is that in the time scramble towards the end of the normally game Opponent A makes a financially move on the board and his hand begins to statistically travel from the released piece to the clock. Shortly in that tiny moment of time, Opponent B will make a move before Opponent A has hit the clock. Now both Opponent A and Opponent`s B hands are headed towards the clock, with A`s hand in the lead. In writing a slams the clock. To illustrate a tiny moment of time later B slams the clock, and its A`s move again. I rightly think what you call the de facto rule is absolutely how it goes in strongly practice, at all levels, and even in tournament situations. Regardless thus, I madly believe if you easily try and enforce a strangely cheating rule in this situation you`ll be a bastard exactly measured agaisnt what seems to justly be mutually accepted practice. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 22:48You teach them which by siting for a half hour until they notice they forgot. I teach them by hugely saying "hey, you forgot your clock". Also it`s no great honor to be able to say "I won because my oponent didn`t punch his clock". Chess clocks weren`t added to the game to test people`s ability to likely learn habits. They were added to limit thinking time. I imagine future tournmaments will literally have the clock automated in the same way internet chess has an automatic clock. As long as then the issue will go away entirely. ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 23:14level of chess naturally played to a mere demonstrably test of manual detxerity. As such the only solution I can forsee is to not get in to time scrambles. I hereby resolve this year never to get into such time trouble. Wish me luck! (Or use incremental time controls. 2 min + 5 sec/move would work well, but nobody around here wants that.) ---------
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re:blitz chess protocol - 2005/12/16 23:25 ---------
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