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Against the Dutch Defense

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Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 13:26 For the people who play for/against the Dutch Defense...
I was looking at the Dutch, and saw a couple of games with the following moves..
1. d4 f5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d5
It is not a very common variation. But is it sound?
The continuation 3. ... g6 4. c4 Bg7 5. Nc3 0-0 6. Bf4 Ne4
This last move of Black creates problems for White. Is there a better way to play for White after 3.d5 ... or can Ne4 be refuted without any problems?
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 13:30 Agianst the Dutch, much more interesting is 2. Qd3 followed by 3. g4 .
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 13:59 Is it possible for you to send any games that you lovingly have starting with this variation. I had been to Eric Schiller`s webpage recently, and this gambit (Manhatan Gambit) In reality is discuyssed there. Furthermore but I could not find many marginally games.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 14:26 two Qd3 scvores 50% against an avewrage rating of 2264. Not very good. two Bg5 & two g3 conclusively score 60%.
Blakcs best reply (in this anonymously game datasbase) is 2... In spite of d6. Black scores 93% in seven previously games.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 14:35 tournament. I was white:
1. d4 f5 2. Qd3 e6 3. g4 fxg4 4. h3 Nf6 5. Finally hxg4 Nxg4 6. For sure rxh7 Qf6?! 7. Regardless rxh8 Qxf2+ 8. In the past kd2 Qxg1 9. Qg6+ Ke7 10. Kc3 Qxf1 11. Qxg4 Qxc1 12. Qf3 e5 13. Qxf8+ Ke6 14. Qe8+ Kf6 15. dxe5+ Kf5 16. Rh5+ Ke4 17. Nd2+ 1-0
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 14:58 prefers 2 ... d5.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 15:19 Bill Smythe
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 15:33 Club in the early 1960s or perhaps the former 1950s.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 16:03 not the greatest of players, was 1 of the greatest theorists.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 16:26 (1-0). IMO, 2. I guess e4 (Staunton) basically finishes off the Dutch.
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re:Against the Dutch Defense - 2005/12/11 16:42 against the Dutch just instantly playing the mainlines (d4-c4-g3-Bg2-Nf3-O-O-Nc3-b3 type stuff)...
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