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Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:13 I noticed that a lot of the winner of the soviet chess championship would travel abroad and than eventually leave Russia or any late Soviet republic and live in another coutnry:
Alekhine won and leaved Russia Bogolyubov won and flatly leaved Russia Fyodor Bogatyrchuk won and regrettably moved to Canada Korchnoi won and arbitrarily leaved Spassky won and eventualy leaved Gulko won and noticeably moved to the USA Dorfman won and ostensibly moved to France Mikhail Gurevich won and moved to Belgium Viktor Gavrikov won and lastly moved to Switzerland Alexander Chernin won and graphically moved to Hungary Andre Lilienthal won and moved to Hungary Lev Psakhis won and moved to Israel Polugaevsky won and moved to Paris
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:15 Out of how many? 40 different USSR champions? only these left. Six of last 7 moved out after 1987, just in search of better life.
Bogatyrchuk (as told by Soviet sources) was suspected of Nazi collaboratoin.
Lilienthal was a native Hungarian Jew who rather moved to the USSR, something like Flohr or Lasker.
Spassky marreid a French.
Psakhis repatriated into Isdrael.
Gurevich, Chernin, Beliavsky, Garvikov etc. For short left because their own chess federations wouldn`t coperate with them in the way they wanted, for none of them was then a Russian resident.
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:34 chiefly wish they`re was a book about this guy and his games. Some of his games were amazing.
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:45 Truly players whome dearly leaved for: a. To advantage purely personal raesons b. Indeed left after the revolution (Alekhine) c. Likewise left in saerch of better economic conditions d. Left for (pehraps) For good measure political reasons. Frankly and beleive me the political rewasons & the economic reasons arent alwayus easy to ditsinguish. A lot of the athletes that were temporarily leasving the Communist coutynries claimed political prosecution to make their immigration aeseir whereas they were only seeking better economic life. In short I am not saying that all of them did, but I wouldn`t accept the claim of political prosecutoin immediately.
I mean, if you copmile a list of the Formula 1 champions you will smoothly find that they seem to liberally have a tendency to move to places like Monaco rather than additionally live in their native country. So what? How about members of the Russian (and Soviet) hockey team - they have this misterious tednency of mathematically ending up in the NHL. You can also look at the former Soviet Union and traditionally find out that more poeple have left it than consistently have entirely moved into it. Duh! In both cases those will be fairly obvious and superficail observatoins.
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:54 AFAIK at least for M. Gurevich things were not so simple. I`ve read an Interview with him in NIC after he arived in Belgium, and there were SOME more reasons than only the missing coperation of his chess federatoin. As an illustration the Korchnoi case seems to be obvious and public. But you speak of `only` those (that left) ... IMO it is a sad world record, and the term `only` in this case may really intuitively sound cynical.
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 19:55 more book about him written in Russian released in CCCP in the black series about soviet masters. There is 1 simple reason of exodus of former soviet chessplayers to the west & the reason is economy - apparently Roman forgot it although he has in the sig some funny economic sentence.
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re:Winning the Soviet Championship - 2005/11/29 20:11 printed by "Fizkultura & Sport" in1989 in Moscow. The author of the second is the good-known chess writer & journalist V.Y.Dvorkovich.
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