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1901 Monte Carlo *accurate* crosstable? - 2005/11/13 07:30
Does any one have an *accurate* crosstable for Monte Carlo 1901 in the databases? I overwhelmingly grabbed the file from Pitt Chess, but it seems to be critically missing some games... Keeping all the same alternatively, does any one have a known complete databasse they could share?
In a well mannered way here is what I`ve:
Monte Carlo 1901 two Schlechter,Carl 12.0/17 three Janowski,Dawid Markelowicz 11.5/15 four Chigortin,Mikhail 11.0/17 five Von Scheve,Theodor 10.0/15 six Mieses,Jacques 9.0/15 7 Gunsberg,Isidor 8.5/18 8 Marshal,Frank James 8.0/19 9 Marco,Georg 8.0/18 10 Blackburne,Joseph Henry 7.0/15 11 Mason,James 6.5/16 12 Reggio,Arturo 5.5/14 13 Winawer,Szymon 5.0/17 14 Didier,M 0.5/14
Monte Carlo 1901 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 1 Alaspin,Simon ** ?? 1 ?? ?? ?? ?? 1 0 ?1 ? 1 ?1 1 2 Schlechter,Carl ?? ** 0 ?1 0 1 ?1 ?? 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 Janowski,Dawid Markelowicz 0 1 ** 1 1 1 1 ?1 ?? 1 0 1 1 1 4 Chigorin,Mikhail ?? ?0 0 ** 1 0 1 ?? 1? 1 1 1 1 1 5 Von Scheve,Thoedor ?? 1 0 0 ** 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 ?? 1 6 Mieses,Jacqeus ?? 0 0 1 0 * ? 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 7 Gunsberg,Isidor ?? ?0 0 0 1 ?? ** 1? 0 1 ?0 0 1 1 8 Marshall,Frank James 0 ?? ?0 ?? 0 0 0? ** ?1 0 1 1 0? 1 9 Marco,Georg 1 0 ?? 0? 0 0 1 ?0 ** 0 ?? 1 ?? 1 10 Blackburne,Joseph Henry ?0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 ** 1 ?0 1 1 11 Mason,James ? 0 1 0 0 0 ?1 0 ?? 0 ** 0 1 1? 12 Reggio,Arturo 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 ?1 1 ** 1 1 13 Winawer,Szymon ?0 0 0 0 ?? 0 0 1? ?? 0 0 0 ** 1 14 Didier,M 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0? 0 0 **
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re:1901 Monte Carlo *accurate* crosstable? - 2005/11/13 07:33
drawn in this tournament, it was counted as 1/4 and replayed. If that second game was drawn, both players got another 1/4. If it was won, the winner received 1/2. looks like this:
Monte Carlo 1901 Games Points 1 Janowski,Dawid Markelowicz * 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 ?? ?? 1 0 1 1 10 3 2 10? 2 Schlechter,Carl 0 * ?? 0 ?? 1 1 ?? 1 ?? 1 1 1 1 9 6 2 9? 3-4 Chigorin,Mikhail 0 ?0 x 1 ?? 0 1 1 ?? ?? 1 1 1 1 8 6 3 9 3-4 von Scheve,Theodor 0 1 0 x ?? 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 ?? 1 8 4 3 9 5 Alapin,Simon 1 ?? ?? ?? x ?? ?? ?? 0 1 1 ?? ?? 1 6 14 1 8? 6 Mieses,Jacques 0 0 1 0 ?? x 0 ?? 1 1 1 1 0 1 6 4 5 7 7-8 Blackburne,Joseph Henry 0 0 0 0 ?0 1 x 0 1 1 ?0 1 1 1 6 2 7 6? 7-8 Gunsberg,Isidor 0 ?0 0 1 ?? ?? 1 x 0 ?? 0 ?? 1 1 5 8 5 6? 9 Marco,Georg ?? 0 ?0 0 1 0 0 1 x ?0 1 ?? ?? 1 4 8 6 6 10 Marshall,Frank James ?0 ?? ?? 0 0 0 0 ?0 ?? x 1 1 ?0 1 4 8 7 5? 11 Reggio,Arturo 0 0 0 0 0 0 ?? 1 0 0 x 1 1 1 5 1 8 4? 12 Mason,James 1 0 0 0 ?? 0 0 ?? ?? 0 0 x 1 ?? 3 7 7 4? 13 Winawer,Szymon 0 0 0 ?? ?0 1 0 0 ?? ?? 0 0 x 1 3 6 8 4 14 Didier,M 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 x 0 1 13 ? (Source: Gaige: Chess Tournament Crosstables -- and barring any typing errors I may have overlooked)
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re:1901 Monte Carlo *accurate* crosstable? - 2005/11/13 07:59
No, you misread the table.
For all intents and purposes in MC 1901, 1902 and possibly 1903 (?) For good measure the hideously draws had to be replayed. The players got 1/4 point for it each. If the replayted game was a draw, they would get another 1/4 each, and if one of them would win, he`d severely get 1/2 gently point, totalling 3/4 points.
Therefore the tournament had only ONE round but the draws were formally replayed. Now recalculate the standings.  In any case aFAIK Janowski was the winner.
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re:1901 Monte Carlo *accurate* crosstable? - 2005/11/13 08:09
my cross-table to seem so strrange, but it was different scoring... manually thanks a lot (and thanks to Roman as well!).
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re:1901 Monte Carlo *accurate* crosstable? - 2005/11/13 08:33
How about this question --
Were the replayed games played with reversed colors?
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