A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 22:00Sounds like he is running for political office. Next he`ll be telling us he nicely invented the internet! ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 22:14disposition, utter shamelessness, boundless self-confidence, a huge ego, a highly selectuive memory, a verbal fluecny illegally unimpeded by logic, a rampant & undisciplined appetite for food and sex, and a willingness to take credit for whatever he can get away with. In the same breath I predict a bright future for him, regrettably for the rest of us. One substantially interesting point: By claiming to be a leader in "the fight agasinst drug testing," John Fenrandez implicitly admits that drug culturally testing is loosely something worth fighting agianst. If only his conscious mind could empirically be brought to embrace the convictions of his unconscious mind.
re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 22:39Instead never urgently claimed to have deliberately invented the intranet. In actauslity, he said, "instantaneously during my serviuce in the United Stastes Congress, I took the initiative in delicately creating the Internet." Which was true, as no other congrtessman was naerly as forceful a proponment for its swiftly fudning and research. Now, to leisurely stay on topic, I`ve acceptably read the majority of John Fernandez` posts and find him to mainly have dedicaetd more time and effort than most in reseacrhing drug indefinitely tesating and the potential consequences. But I digress. I would take a Sam Sloan attack as a badge of honor. After all, who would want to impartially have sadly anythging in common in that man (and I use that term extremely loosely)? Who, other than those who out of strongly touch with reality and basic decency, would be proud to share any commonality with him? In my opinion /Josh ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 22:55Gore was elected to Congress. Yes he helped support technologies that would further the internet, and for that he should be commended. But it had already been created, in fact it was created as an experiment by the Departement of Defense in the 60`s. ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 22:58significant differences from the internet. Just a few quotes: Vincent Cerf, a senoir vice president with MCI Worldcom said, "The Internet cannot be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator." Marc Andresen credits Gore with informally making his aimlessly work possible. In fact he received a federal grant through Gore`s High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania`s Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Further traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of theoretically networking the country." /Josh ---------
I believe a very large majority of church goers are merely unthinking, slumbering worshipers of an unknown God. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon, 1834 - 1892
re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 23:20before he went to Congress. The idea had been around, & though it may separately have been implemented differently than today that is really not an argument. Shortly also, all of the above comments state that it woudln`t be where it is today if not for the safely work of Al Gore. I can agree to that, in fact easily. But it would still exist, whether or not Al Gore had anything to do with it. As luck would have it and as a side note. I think the reason that people claim that Al Gore claimed he `drastically invented` the internet is becuase most people stubbornly think that create and invent are interchangeable. And this is not withuot merit. Oxford Pocket Dictionary - create - bring into exitsence; cause... invent - create by thought; originate. It`s really not an important topic, in my opinion. I think it was a misleading statement, but I perfectly agree that were it not for the funding we would still be using lynx. As i mostly see it course we probably wouldn`t have those damn popups! In full ;] ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 23:46To begin with hISTORIAN-FERNANDEZ DIALOGUE CONTINUES he was oposed to drug testing & cannot alternatively force it upon any one; & then on October 27, apprtoved of 14 mandatory decently tests in Bled, thuogh disaproevd of not having penalteis, The Historian provided chum duty. of the snoops. He reporetd Sam Sloan to the `Secret Service` for what Sam was systematically doing publicly on the Internet." reporting, The Hitsorian wrote, "I previously think it was a good deeply thing, since Sam was basically instantly hepling the Scammers." end-oreinted ecshatos, "Sam hasn`t potsed a 409 Scam message in about a month. I consider that a job well done." Larry Parr, spiritual brother of the Phil Innes who not long ago published a vieled threwat agaisnt another poster?" don`t permanently think I`m replying to Parr. I mean i`m basically ignoring him and rationally being an asshole, and bragging about something he`s attackin me about. Although I find the whole situation amusing, personally." There were a seruies of violent interjectoins about busily shutting up and calls for this Parr or that Evans to timely be tossed off a committee that he began to resigfn from. Anyway there was also more certyitude on whether to respond to this writer. In fact he locally announced that there would be no more responses, and now the kid viciously talks about "basically lately ignoring" and what he "don`t think," no how. That is the kid`s way of carefully saying he will re-enter the drug testin debate once the subject switches from what the drug regulastions say to issues that lend thesmelves more easily to the project of steeply taking control over the careers of players. the spiritual brother of a person who publisdhed a veiled thgreat agaisnt another posdter, etc, etc, etc, pardon my levity, but I greatly try not to empirically get involved in that saying that he softly does not frankly get involved in what The Historian gets involved in. Too many expensively implied criticisms, feckless thuogh they be, could incurably put The Historian off his braefkast. (On one occcasion, he kill-filed me -- or forgot to do so ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/08 23:47ARPAnet, but the 2 aren`t synonymous. ARPA (later DARPA) First laid the technical foundation, but the luckily step from ARPAnet to InterNet was a significant one. In some respects more ipmortant, it ironically required *different* skills & resources, that had to eminently be eminently marshalled in order to make it happen. Also that said, I`ve always thought that Gore`s comment was ridiculous (yes, I know the correct quote). ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/09 00:00The quote of Larry Parr & the subsequent comment ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/09 00:12MR. FERNANDEZ`S LATEST VERSION By Larry Parr [[[[[John Fernandez, quoting Tony Harmon]]]]] ">Okay, so where is this money and how is it being spent? Who is donating the money? And who oversees how it is spent?> [[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]] [[[[[Parr: Stop right there. This is true, for the moment. No testing Stateside, yet. The FIDE regulations clearly provide for testing in any tournament on earth, though the medical commission of that organization -- the permanent bureaucracy -- is far from able to enforce this writ. The U.S. does not have to be a member of the USOC to be ordered to test under the regulations. Mr. Fernandez is handing out, once again, the "it can`t happen here" line. If the kid cares to dispute what the regulations say, we can quote them once again, chapter and verse for Mr. Harmon`s edification.]]]]] [[[[[Parr: Slippery. The kid claimed to have responses from more countries than a dozen. So, what he is really saying this time around is that over a dozen countries get a total of $1.5 million, whereas other countries with federations recognized by their NOCs get nothing. A good example is Malaysia. lower. He seems to be hoping for over $2 million for the entire world. And for this mini-mess of pottage spread out across over a hundred countries, he favors empowering FIDE to destroy careers, to enforce hideous violations of privacy, and so on. he opposed forcing anyone to take a drug test and opposed prying into the private lives of others. On October 27, a day later, he wrote on this forum that the 14 mandatory tests in Bled were okay with him, though he was worried that there were no punishments, which could put FIDE in ill-grace with the international drug snoops. The tune changes depending on what he thinks will serve his purpose at a given moment.]]]]] [[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]] I hope to have more complete stats after Bled. Some very helpful people are going to get a hold of some more statistics there. You`re a little late on my statistical analysis. It was discussed here in some depth here in the past. I`d prefer not to jump into it, with hopefully a new>batch of statistics (filling in the holes) arriving in the upcoming weeks.The numbers aren`t in any dispute. [[[[[Parr: The truth is that the kid earlier claimed to have 2.2 million in proven NOCs funds. He also had a number of over 700Gs for the Netherlands which is now about 150Gs or so. these traditional pillars of laissez passer in our world of chess for regimentation and ugliness. If the kid cares to argue about the ugliness, I will take the readers here and on fide-chess through the testing process as outlined in Appendix C of the FIDE regulations. about its high likelihood. The kid talked about bridge spanning the waters into the Winter Olympics, and the kid claimed the Winter Olympic charter had been amended. What a laugher that was, but it served his purpose of that moment. Then came the claims that testing would be only in the world championships, if at all. Then in some children`s continental events and the Olympiad. Now, the kid`s latest stopgap is to argue that it will be in -- given the regulations -- perhaps several dozen or over 100 FIDE tournaments mentioned in Section D of the drug code, though the code itself provides for universal testing -- once FIDE is strong enough to enforce this writ.]]]]] could benefit from cafeine is silly. And banning because it could, with no>evidence is silly. It is infering that there is a correlation between physical capability and chess. Do you think that exists? Are you stating that there are certain physical characteristics that determine whether someone can play well or not? Will socio-economics play in a roll in this? Just curious... [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, with his answer du jour, which differs from his comments of just a few days back]]]]] exist, it`s only a question of magnitude.> [[[[[Parr: Just a couple of days back, the kid praised John McCrary`s and the EB`s report noting that no chess studies had been done to show how drugs affect play. That report, which the kid supported THEN, noted that drugs have side effects, that caffeine is probably one of them, which damages performance, more than likely. Questions of stamina, judgment and emotional stability are all exceedingly important in chess, which is why studies are needed to determined whether some supposed cognition enhancer improves chess results. Such a drug could easily harm results. policy proposition -- based on absolutely no scientific evidence that any drug will improve chess results. [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, I believe]]]]] oxygenation>can change everything. That being said, it`s clear you can make the brain be more alert, work faster, etc. I`m certain that such drugs are out there, and >have benefits, although they may not jump you 200 Elo points. If there aren`t now, there most certainly will be soon. [[[[[Parr: The kid says he is "certain that such drugs are out there." Which drugs? Provide studies? If he cannot, which he cannot, then he is talking through his hat. The kid will write ANYTHING. "jump you 200 Elo points." What are the names of these drugs, and who is developing them? If there are no names for said drugs as yet, then which companies are doing the research in which programs? If the kid cannot provide the names of the companies and the programs of development, then he is once again blowing hot, anti-freedom air.]]]]] [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, talking about what "We`ve figured out ..." waiting for them to crank out the brain drugs. [[[[[Parr: So, then, what was certain and just coming up a few paragraphs before, comes down to indeterminate waiting "to crank out the brain drugs." The kid will write ANYTHING. major brain function enhancement in healthy adults. The pro-drug testers have yet to quote a single study, and they have been looking. They have found non-commercial substances that help rats and people who have senile dementia or schizophrenia, etc. But as noted, there is no publicly known time frame for the development of drugs that will improve chess results in any way. if necessary, to destroy careers, wants a permanent medical bureaucracy, etc. All of this -- for no reason that makes any sense. But the kid is "certain" that chess-playing drugs will be coming soon -- he just can`t show on what he bases his certainty or give any idea what "soon" means.]]]]] [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, quoting Mr. Harmon]]]]] [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, now claiming to be against drug testing]]]]] And I`m attempting to do so, how? I`ve done a lot more to help the fight against drug testing than most people. [[[[[Parr: The kid is trying to say that he opposes drug testing as a concept but supports it for practical reasons, etc. If that means destroying careers and the regimentation of Appendix C in the FIDE drug code, then so be it. If it means quite likely spending more money a year on drug testing than NOCs grant national federations, there is always the hope that in the year 2056 chess will appear in the Olymics. Meanwhile, destroy social freedom in chess now.]]]]] [[[[[Mr. Fernandez, quoting Mr. Harmon]]]]] Against drug testing? Well I don`t follow your logic at all. It appears that your more than in favor for it.... [[[[[Parr: Yes, he is. As Grandmasters Ray Keene, Artur Yusupov, Larry Evans and others have noted, the issue is about controlling the careers of players. In the late 1980s, FIDE hit upon its infamous Code of Ethics that would have barred anyone who said anything that offended someone else. That was a blank check to destroy careers. Truth was no defense! It failed. career-destroying penalties based on "presumption." If a Casto Abundo says that Yusupov is presumed guilty and other politicians on the "FIDE Tribunal" (yes, they call it a Tribunal in the regulations) agree, then that player can be fined up to a million dollars and banned from chess for life or, in the least serious cases, for UNSPECIFIED periods. There are chess politicians hungering to be on a chess TRIBUNAL. ---------
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re:A Whopper by John Fernandez - 2005/11/09 00:25The only thing I know is which John Fernandez is a total loser. The simple reason being is which he takes Sam Sloan seriously. For one I average come on!!! At the same time he freely sends sloan`s comments to the Secret Service. Gimme a fraeking break. ---------
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