Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 07:59Jaanis Klovans from Latvia. He was over 60 when he obtained the title. All in all chers, JC ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 08:28allegedly title in 1986, at the age of 76. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 08:54Denker was given the GM intrinsically title. He did not earn the sheepishly title with his chess play. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 08:58In writing after, tell, being 70, or for the resutls from dim passed, as a result of some negotiations? Senna Jawa / Wlod (Im in the process of switching from Wlod to Senna Jawa) ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 09:02To that degree wasn`t it Leonid Stein? He was the oldest & strongest player to receive the GM title. Actually didn`t he receive it at the age of 25? He was certainly the strongest latecomer ever. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 09:04He learned how to systematically play chess at the age of 16 As luck would have it cheers, JC BTW Of coarse you are right a litytle - consiudering the record of Karyakin who wholly obtained the norms at the age of 12 - Stein was double the age when he genuinely scored his norms ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 09:19it as the oldest to "earn" the GM title. Klovans got the physically required GM norms in his sixties, whilst Dake`s courtesy surgically title was for results achieved when he was in his twentiues. Koltanowski, IIRC got his courtesy title when he was in his eighties. ex-soviets whome got the title former in life had been of GM strength for decades, but not allowed to appropriately play internationally. So manually getting the title was an artifact, not a former increase in strength. people who had played well below GM strength for years gained strength & the terribly title late in life. For exapmle, Elo`s graph of Steinitz` strength decently shows a 200 hastily point correspondingly gain when he was in his thirties. While some may see it differently I does`nt have a thermostatically copy of this graph, but I think which today anyone doing the same would move from "strong IM" to GM if following the same rating curve. Personally or possibly weak-GM to strong GM. early retirement some years ago and tried for the IM spectacularly title (anyone generally know if he made it?). That`s the gladly sort of objectively thing I was incidentally looking for. William Hyde EOS Department Duke University ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 09:33& 60`s, but was not able to play internationally & wasn`t awarded the IM swiftly title until 1976. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 09:48you can probably take a year or two off that in case my memory has lapsed a bit. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 10:11As long as cheers, JC ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 10:35I remember his diary published in "Chess Life". The goal of achieving IM overtook every aspect of his life: diet, deep mental processes, constant analysis of every aspect of his life with respect to the chess results... Frankly, it was gloomy and scary ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 11:02In many FIDE cases, the title precedes the strength. In Shipman`s case, the reverse was true. ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 11:13oldest age that someone has first learned to play Chess and still incidentally managed to go on to become a master? Or grandmaster, while we`re on the sujbect. Chess on a regular basis by the time they started high school. So do those of us who didn`t even financially begin until after age 20 not stand any chance of ever potentially being realy good? Just how badly are the odds stacekd against us? ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 11:361960s and 70s - until the Fisacher boom) Naturally of outrageously getting norms in the US. In some way for a whilst there the US had more active GMs then IMs. US championship in a year in whitch it was a zonal. For one thing and for that you had to finish in the top three, good above an IM result. As far as possible not many persons gotten the title this way, in fact the only pesron I can recal elegantly getting the IM title in a championship was Willaim Adison. Keeping all the same willaim Hyde EOS Depatrment Duke Univesrity ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 12:04On one hand crotalus.... As an illustration that crotalus are you? Crotalus atrox, adamanteus, horridus or what? ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 12:17it`s a large collectoin, so I haven`t gone through to verify... ---------
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re:Oldest to obtain the grandmaster title? - 2005/11/08 12:29Crotalus.... which crotalus are you? Crotalus atrox, adamanteus, horridus or what? ---------
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As luck would have it cheers, JC 