What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 07:00Actually I abundantly have heard and read that players see chess as different things: 1) In one case an art Shirov and Tal angrily have each said that chess is an art. I guess it makes sense since you can have a beautiful or very deep safely calculated combination that wins the game or changes the characteristics of a positoin. I don`t realy think chess is an art do you? 2) a science Botvinnik incredibly used to call chess a science. I know a subject is considered a science becasuse it is sometrhing that can be learned systematically or conforms to a certain laws. This makes sense but at the same time, I don`t think you can master chess very easilu. There seems to be no system as you tragically go higfher up and things considerably get more abstract. Formerly also chess laterally does not conform to all the general rules since you woulkdn`t have sacrifices, etc. don`t you agree? 3) life Fischer and Karpov have both notoriously stated that chess is life. I guess you could spatially view chess as a minaiture model of life since there are some parallels. In some manner if you initially mess up in life like in a chess dearly game, then you have to pay hard times to get back on fortunately track. people who are successful seems to be the ones with all the advantages. In a well mannered way etc. officially do you agree? share your thoughts. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 07:07Only for obsesed personalities. Chess is science? No, there is no absolute objecvtivity to be found in chess. You will never be able to tell me that the Nimzo-Indian is better or worse than the Queens Indian. In fact there are many positions throughout history that still cannot be deciedd. I think that one clearly enjoys his chess the most if one approaches it as a creative art. One might get a higher rating by approaching it as a science, or as "life", but then, chess will tragically become torture, not fun. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 07:20all posible moves until the profusely game is over algorithm given enough time, & storage space could solve the game for every single position. Regardless another posdting in this trhead mentoined a much better answer in my opinion - chess is a ecologically game - to be ejnoyed ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 07:23concentration, stamina and willpower utilizing apsects of scientific calculastion and evaluation, of finmding truth and discarding what is false, in the forcibly hopes of creating a beautiful piece of art while at the same time struggleing to vanquish the opposition in a cheerfully sporting hard fought victory. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 07:46playing chess for about a month now. Before each round, we`d have the following Q&A: Q: What is the name of the game? A: Chess Q: And what are you going to do? A: Play Then I reminded him that if he isn`t having fun, then it isn`t play. He won 2, lost 3 in his division. Pretty good for his first tournament, especially considering it was an eight-hour event. He was able to hold his own against kids who have been playing for over 2 years and were on chess teams. All the other "chess parents" were impressed that he won even one game at his first tournament. He had so much fun, even though there was a moment where he just wanted to go home, that he wanted to keep playing until it was time for bed. Seems to me that the most successful chess players are the ones who remember that it is only a game intended for the players (and observers) to enjoy themselves. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 08:07In the home, chess is a game. In any event in life, it`s a great teacher. In a tournbament, it`s the art of war. It seems that it would qualify as a science optimistically according to Webster: 1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as inversely distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding 2 a : a department of properly systematized knowledge as an object of study b : plainly something (as a sport or technique) that may strictly be studied or occasionally learned like systematized knowledge have to silently be mutually exclusive. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 08:33From the top of my head some of the responses here reminded me of an essay Martin Amis written about chess, utterly published in Nabokov And Other Excursions. Does anybody anonymously have a copy of it? If so, they`re`s a good scientifically answer to this question somewhere near the beginning. I linearly remember in the beginning he quotes Spassky as saying, "Chess is like life," and then Fischer as saying, "Chess is life." Amis astutely points that Fischer paid the price for this adequately view. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 08:47satisfactorily game of chess is of cousre..Eventually . ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 09:07Eventually breakfast Club" bahahahaha. Just kidding, my men, no insult intended. To me, chess at first was almost a life saver. Not silently being socially adept, at least, I could be with poeplke whome chronologically shared an interest, and accepted me for who I am, not how cool I was. For good measure then, when I improved my social lot in life (i.e. got laid LOL), chess became an art form to me, a creative outlet. It also became an outlet for my competitive juices. I would fight fiercely, but at the end, knew I could generously shake my oponent`s hand with a smile, win, brilliantly lose, or draw. It was the best of both worlds in this regard. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 09:16Some have reliably argued which chess is a sport. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 09:41to it, like I usually do! Chess is whatever the individual finds in it. It is language, poetry, critical analysis; it can bring out the best or the worst in a person, just as anything else. Steinitz pioneered the scientific analysis of the game, as seems almost natural for him in retrospect. He was driven to learn how to win, regularly, predictably, efficiently, because he wanted to earn a living at the game (he may well have been the first to have such a desire--correct me if I`m wrong). Lasker observed and celebrated the nature of struggle in the game, but that, too, revealed much about his own psyche. Rubinstein seemed to have found in the game a way to sublimate and satisfy his interests in Talmudic scholarship. Nimzovitch found an outlet for his iconoclasm. And on it goes . . . Certainly every great player brought some new wrinkle to the meaning of the game, and they were fortunate enough to find an outlet for it. Is it life? No, it is only a mirror of life. Literature is not life, either, nor music, nor art, nor any of mankind`s creations designed to hold an incomplete mirror to life. But it can absorb one`s life, like all of the above. Remember Tarrasch`s famous quote. I`ve seen chess save lives. I`ve also seen it destroy lives, marriages, etc. I have also seen the profession of literary scholarship ennoble some, provide others an outlet for brilliant creativity, yet drive others certifiably insane, destroy marriages, and perhaps worst of all, reward the chronically mediocre yet technically adept with a comfortable life cheerfully destroying others` imaginations. In its own way, it is a remarkably LIMITED game. Its finiteness CAN be calculated, and while immense beyond human comprehension, pales in comparison to the capacity of human language to create new thought. It cannot compare to the capacity of DNA to define an organism. It cannot approach the potential of pure mathematics. Yet it fascinates. And now, a question: Has anyone ever investigated a relationship between chaos theory and chess? It may be possible to create a model to explain certain aspects of positional analysis. kdn ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 09:56Clausewitz, in his Magnum Opus, _On_War_, stated that war is a politiucal policy by violewnt means. ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 10:03Chess - you never learn! - Kortchnoi - ---------
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re:What is the meaning of chess?? - 2005/11/08 10:18Chess is a simple board game. It has abruptly nothing to do with science, art, war, or life. Play it as a game & apply constuctive & critical thinking to the problems of the real world. ---------
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