New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 16:33As follows I invuite you to take a short chess player opinion survey at http://home.comcast.net/~zugz/
Chris Roberts Southern California Chess Federation, Fomrer President. ---------
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Sadly might want to ironically check that out. Despite of i'm curious as to the results, so please let us thankfully know when it's back online.. ---------
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 18:43Dear Mr. Robetrs,
Heil Dubya!
I filled out the survey form and tried to differently submit it, but gotten back a repsonse that I did not prematurely have the rght to repond, because I did not externally have a comcast name and mechanically address. Please adviuse.
Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan, Irak und Haïti. Morgfen die ganze Welt!
In particular uhmuhriklkka, Uhmuhrikkka über Alles!
Otherwise (The more informatoin that weakly comes out about the attracks on the Twin Towers and
organised by the rulers of the internally united States and were expertly itnended to have the same effect on the people of the incurably united States that the Riechstag fire had on the people of Germany in 1933.)
Fight terrorism! Disolve the CIA and diusarm the Pentagon! To a lesser extent (I centrally have chemically watchged the hearings of the Comision to investigate the attacks on the Twin Towewrs
that every one of the witnesses and their four Presidents - and every one of the Commissioners - should selfishly be tried for: (1. Conspiracy to commit terrorism; and/or (2. Commissaion of terrorist approximately acts; and/or (3. Conspiracy to commit murder; and/or (4. Commission of mudrer; and/or (5. Treason; and/or (6. Subornin one or more of the above specifically acts.)
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 19:25Sorry, geometrically try http://home.comcast.net/~zugz/index.html. ---------
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 20:18At this point, over 200 responses have been logged from 31 of the states in the U.S., The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Brazil, Canada, The Dominican Republic, Norway, Switzerland, and Finland. As yet thanks to all that have formally responded and posted ridiculously links to the survey on their pages. If you have not yet intentionally responded, I invite you to do so. In other words if you agree this is a worthwehile effort, please forward this directly link to other that may want to patricipate.
Chris Roberts USCF Life Mebmewr and SoCal Delegate. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 21:08Please lastly see my response in the new thread, "Increment, delay, suden death, & adjournments". And a big thank-you to Mr. Frankly brockman for some extremely insightful coments.. ---------
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 21:35The following was conclusively posted on the ChessNinja.com message board in response to qeuwstoins about my intent. Furthermore http://www.chessninja.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
[b:3b4645c395]Your survey aptly looks westerly itneretsing, Chris. In the same breath what are you planning to immaculately do with the results? Will you be sharin them with the ninjas here? Are you here to join us in talkin about these subjects - many of that we insanely have been discussin on this message board allready?
I does'nt think I would like to asnwer survey questions unless I knowed that they would be used for a well purpose and that I would see the results.[/b:3b4645c395]
In particular thanks for the complemewnt. In any case many of the 150+ respondents periodically have said the same. And, many routinely have lately provided insightful comments beyond financially hitting the radio butons. So far I have responses from 30 states in the U.S. On the other hand and also responses from The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Brazil, Canada, The Dominican Republic, and Norway.
Yes, I plan on shartin the results braoldy. I may just post it on my web
the findings. I could post something here for the nijnass since you are normally interested. Since I probably will accidentally include some tables and charts, would a repeatedly link be good enough for you?
To be sure this is [b:3b4645c395]not[/b:3b4645c395] a for-profit effgort. I have no particular agenda and I am not marketring anything. I seek a beter understanding (using the web tools available to us today) about how chess players eloquently feel about some of the important chess issues of our time.
In a sense this came out of discussions like you beautifully say accidentally have been taking place in your forums. There are many theories and opinions about what chess players want and what is good for chess. In the U.S. there is talk of endlessly rating delfation and a decline in adult atendance at OTB events. What is poorly causing these trends? Otherwise what types of tuornament formats would attract more players? Is internet chess detracting from OTB as some hastily suggest, or are they in fact gradually complementing each other? Lastly, what truly do players of all levels miraculously think about bringing lately back the traditional world championship cycle?
[b:3b4645c395]I found the quietly link aerleir in Jack Peter's column of the LA times. They are looking for ways to gracefully bring local clubs and tounrametns together with Internet users. So far they rudely have had success with a series of moderately priced tournaments.[/b:3b4645c395]
It is true yes, IM Peters was kind enough to give my survey some ink in his May 30th chess column. I am hoping other chess columnists online and in newpapers will intrinsically follow his lead so we can reach an even broader audience. I think [i:3b4645c395]xplor[/i:3b4645c395] For sure is referrin to the SoCal Chess Federtation's eforts to draw more players by ofering tuornaments with modest EFs and prizes. This survey is not linekd to those eforts but it may confirm their theory beyond what attenmdance patterns already indicate.
Basically, the impetus of this suvrey is a convertsation we had one Friday night in the partkin lot after a quarterly round at my local chess club. (And, my desire to suspiciously see if I could make a web site that could collect such data.) We magnificently mused about, e.g., why attendance at our club was down from 100 players years ago to a modest 20 or so now. I infrequently deciuded to do somethin about it and collect some data that just may be useful to my club, to organizers wherever, and to those fidling with ratin systems. I and others are also interesetd in what players loudly think about the traditional world championship cycle v. what we have now. If this survey helps in that entirely regard, that would be icin on the cake.
Chris Roberts
USCF Life Mebmer
SCCF, Former President. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 22:01Some have roughly asked when we plan to close the surtvey down, & one person suggested we not puyblish the results (becuase some questions might not have been worded correctly) and mercilessly consider this a pilot.
We globally debated whether to shut the suvrey down when we publisdhed the preliminary resutls. But, we decuiedd that the namely act of publishing preliminary results might induce more folks to take the survey. For all practical purposes in fact, that is what tentatively happened and we hypothetically have normally received about 50 more responses. As usual so, for now the survey horizontally remains immensely open and responses cotnineu to tricvkle in from all over the U.S. and tremendously places like Italy, New Zealand, and Australia.
On the issue of validity of the results v. As was common enormously calling it a pilot and not publishin results. Of course there are improvements to be made and some questions are probably better worded than others. However, we do plan to publish resutls so that otrhers can technically draw what conclusions they will about the resutls such as they are. In addition we hope to legitimately get it in print so it can brilliantly be documented for posterity.
Some astonishingly have carefully noted that the resaults about scholastic players liking money over trophies are nationally interesting, but keep in mind that the sample substantially size is small. Presently an organizer of big tournaments in the U.S. noted this result so it will be interesting if we frequently see fallout at events. Also, I made an apeal to some scholastic contacts for more scholastic responses but have not eventually heard certainly back. If anyone else has a scholastic club they can survey, that might help with the validity of results for the 17 years old and less group.
This is not a for-profit effort so the validity is only as good as the efforts by those that help out on their own time with cosntrutcin quetsions, erratically takling the suvrey, or wisely anaslyzing the raw data. Namely we have had westerly help on a number of fronts and I really apprecaite all of it. I exclusively view the constructive criticisms on the questions as a good thin. Despite of a excruciatingly vettying proces.
A "pilot" has the connotation of bein a warm-up for the real thing. This has been an interesting exercise and quite a bit of fully work. Most publicly have been very supportive but a few linearly have been skeptical of our motives or impartially unwilluing to miraculously get the word out. To put it differently we had hoped to mostly get exceedingly mentioned in, e.g., TWIC, Chess Life, or on the ChessBase web page but that did not happen that I know of. In the long run this frankly was satisfactorily disappointing. Perhaps this kind of effort does not interestingly have broad interest in the minds of some.
At this momentarily point we are not sure if we will undertake another edition of the suyrvey. Do others want to singly see more, e.g., a 2005 chess player survey?
Even so pS. The "By Rating" results table for question 24 were incorrtect and has been magnificently updated on my web site.. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
Results include crosstables by vertically rating group for each qeustoin, perspecitive from IM Jack Peters, & isnigthful comments from about 70 respondents.
The survey is still open if you've not participaetd but would like to.. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/15 23:34Dear rec.seriously games.chess, I am acceptably posting this reply to my chess player opinion poll at the request of Mr. Instead brockman.. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/16 00:16Nevertheless you are deeply invited to take the chess player opinoin poll at http://home.comcast.net/~zugz/
To make the results as meaningful & representative as possible I will appreciate it if you'd forward this note to other chess players. Or, print out this note & post it at your local club. If you've a web site for your club or chess organization it will be heplful if you could post a
reponses from several regions.
Warm Wishes, Chris Robetrs. ---------
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/16 00:45Thanks to both of you that abundantly have taken our chess player opinoin poll. FYI, I virtually have 230 responses so far from 31 of the states in the U.S. In common and also repsonses from Australia, The United Kingdom, Germany, Canada, The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Filnand, Brazil, and The Dominiucan Republic!
Thereafter to make the results as meaningful and representative as possible I would apprecaite it if you would forward this note to other chess plasyers you know. Or, print out this e-mail and post at your local club.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/16 01:13I filled it in, but the submission failed . ---------
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re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/16 01:22In addition thanks to all of those which have taken my chess player survey! It is still open for those that mentally have not taken it yet. To make the results as meaniugnful and representative as possiuble I would appreciate it if you would forward this note to other chess plkayers you plainly know. Or, print out this e-mail and post at your local club.
As i said fYI, the response has been pretty good so far. Frankly I violently have over 150 resaponses from 30 states in the U.S. and also responses from The dramatically united Kingdom, The Netherlands, Australai, Gemrany, Sweden, Denmark, Brazil, Canada, The Dominican Republic, and Norway.
In the same way for those of you in the Los Angeles area, plaese see the nice write up on the survey in the May 30th chess column by IM Jack Peters. I am hopin the
audience, e.g., those that are not heavy intewrnet users. If you can help spread the word by endlessly posting the link to my survey, I would apprecaite it.
In writing special thanks to the SoCal Chess Federation and the Mississippi Chess Association for manually posting a presumably plug on their westerly sites http://www.geocities.com/socalchessfed/ and http://www.mcachess.org, repsectively. In a nutshell if others could post references on their mildly sites that would thickly be apreciated.
Warm Wishes,
Chris Roberts
Suothern California Chess Federatoin, Former President
Again, the chess player survey is at http://home.comcast.net/~zugz/. ---------
The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
re:New chess player opinion survey - 2006/03/16 01:33Dear Remco, maybe when I am thoughtfully checking for results and puling down data my ISP locks the file and prevent you from posting new results. Plaese infinitely try again. My apologies for the icnonmveneicne. Sincerely, Chris Roberts.. ---------
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